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06-28-2015, 08:46 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Bluebird cargo compartment weight capacity?
Does anyone know the weight capacity of the underbody cargo compartments on a TC2000. I have one on the bus(just behind the rear axle on the right) and would like to use it for the solar battery bank location. Probably around 800lbs of batteries.
Looks like the front flange is screwed to the body side with sheet metal screws. And the top has a few screws up into the hat channels under the floor of the bus. And there is a steel plate screwed to each end in the back(maybe 6" x 8") with a hook over the top of the bus frame. Im thinking i may have to strengthen it.
Bill
Michigan
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06-28-2015, 11:42 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: Snowflake, Arizona
Posts: 350
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: All American Rear Engine
Engine: C-8.3-300 Cummins MD3060
Rated Cap: 40 Prisoners
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On my 1996 All American my two forward basements are mounted that way with
the two hooks over the top of the frame. They don't look strong enough for a
battery bank to me either. My rear basements are held on with L brackets
mounted to the frame with a piece welded between the L's to create a triangle. I
did notice a tag on the inboard side of the left front bay and will try to get a better
look at it and see if it has a weight designation. My plan is to build and install
two triangle brackets with angle iron to bolt to the frame before installing
the battery bank. May also run a brace between the two for supporting the bottom.
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06-28-2015, 12:01 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: Stony Plain Alberta Canada
Posts: 2,937
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: 190hp 5.9 Cummins
Rated Cap: 72
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I would not trust that much weight in a factory built belly storage bin.
Nat
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06-28-2015, 02:31 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,628
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison 2000 conversion
Rated Cap: 2
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i used my spare tire carrier to hold the batteries. about 300# of them. the carrier is hanging from the frame with j-bolts and riveted to the side.
no problems yet, sounds like your batteries may be bigger though.
i got 4 deep cycle from wally.
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06-28-2015, 10:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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I spent the day pulling the cargo compartment, restoring it, and building some brackets to hold it up. Should hold at least 1000lbs now. Just got it reinstalled. Ill try to post a photo.
Bill
Michigan
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06-28-2015, 10:18 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Here is another.
Bill
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06-28-2015, 10:24 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2013
Location: Colorado
Posts: 2,628
Year: 1993
Coachwork: bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins, Allison 2000 conversion
Rated Cap: 2
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looks good!! that will hold, dam!
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06-28-2015, 10:52 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miltruckman
Here is another.
Bill
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tell us about the table mounted above the fuel cover
homemade? which brackets?
looks useful... I've got several plywood ones in my garages, with 2x2 kickers at baseboard. very handy and fold out of the way
top platform and solar panel pics would be cool too
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06-28-2015, 11:43 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Closer view of shelf. Its a 14ga stainless shelf from a restaurant supply company with a set of folding brackets from Amazon. 36" long. I plan to install a second just to the left of it as funds allow.
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06-28-2015, 11:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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From above. By the way, i havent figured out how to upload more than one photo at a time on my iphone.
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06-28-2015, 11:49 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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The shelf folded. Doesn't stick out much. I Still have to figure a way to latch it in the folded position. And the hole cut out in the side just in front of the rear axle is where the Onan diesel generator goes. I have to build the slide system for that yet. Tricky as it weighs 650lbs. I'm going all electric and diesel. So if the 1k of solar falls behind i'll start the diesel genset. Water heater is electric and diesel. Heat is and diesel or the electric mach 8 heat pump on roof. The stove burner is a built in inductive unit and a convection oven/microwave.
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06-29-2015, 12:03 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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Quote:
Originally Posted by miltruckman
The shelf folded. Doesnt stick out much. Still have to figure way out to latch it in folded position
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weld the stud to a plate, mount the plate (with 4 bolts) behind the skirt, with a hole for the stud and hair pin it??? 2 small holes in tabletop
or one in center?
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06-29-2015, 12:05 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Here is the end of the cargo box installed under the bus. To the left you can see the end of the insulated stainless 110gl gray water tank. I have pad heaters stuck to the bottom of the tank with a temperature controller in case we take it out in cold weather
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06-29-2015, 12:07 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Thats a good idea. Another use for the rivnut tool
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06-29-2015, 12:11 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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Here is the platform i put on the back. It is a 12' long van ladder rack with a peice of 1/8" thick aluminum diamond plate. It ised to be on my van bit was too heavy. The bus doesn't mind the weight though.
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06-29-2015, 12:14 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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or a spring loaded awning foot latch with a bar mounted under the table?
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06-29-2015, 12:15 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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The solar panels are on the right. I built an aluminum angle frame to tilt three panels at a time left or right. Still have to build the prop system to tilt them up. Thay are already hinged though. By the way. That array is 48" wide x 156" long.
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06-29-2015, 12:16 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Lebanon, IN
Posts: 272
Year: 1998
Chassis: TC 2000 bluebird
Engine: 5.9 cummins
Rated Cap: 66
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That awning latch is ever. I might do that.
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06-29-2015, 12:21 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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even something like this mounted horizontally on outside of skirt, with recessed square hole in table flange
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06-29-2015, 12:24 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2015
Location: Oklahoma aka "God's blind spot"
Posts: 2,447
Year: 1989
Coachwork: 1853FC International/Navistar
Chassis: 35' Retired Air Force Ambulance
Engine: DT466, MT643
Rated Cap: 6 souls and a driver
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or.................
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