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10-05-2019, 03:20 PM
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#41
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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I am thinking the model would benefit by having the fuel filter/water separator in the top part of the driver side engine compartment.
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10-05-2019, 03:57 PM
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#42
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
I am thinking the model would benefit by having the fuel filter/water separator in the top part of the driver side engine compartment.
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Is it a requirement / is it common? I haven't added anything over there because many pictures I've seen don't have it (unless I'm confusing what you mean)
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10-05-2019, 09:06 PM
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#43
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dummiesman
Is it a requirement / is it common? I haven't added anything over there because many pictures I've seen don't have it (unless I'm confusing what you mean)
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Late to the party but it looks like this!
(The fuel/water separator is the white colored metal can on the firewall. The other difference you'll see in my pic is the brake fluid reservoir since I've got hydraulic brakes.)
Please don't destroy my dog!
My bus and Native's are very similar -- my fuel tank is in the rear behind the axle between the frame rails.
I suspect I'll look fwd to driving my bus in your sim in a way I'll never drive it in real life!
Is the sim at all valuable as an instruction tool for someone who's never driven a large truck before?
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10-05-2019, 09:43 PM
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#44
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banman
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Cute dog!
Quote:
Originally Posted by banman
Is the sim at all valuable as an instruction tool for someone who's never driven a large truck before?
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Potentially. They did a video on how the physics compare with reality here:
https://youtu.be/FPX2qRQAnBo
Quote:
Originally Posted by banman
My bus and Native's are very similar -- my fuel tank is in the rear behind the axle between the frame rails.
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Out of curiosity what's the capacity of it? The one on my model is ~70gal (It was originally 60 but it was resized and I never re measured).
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10-05-2019, 10:53 PM
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#45
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dummiesman
SNIP...
Out of curiosity what's the capacity of it? The one on my model is ~70gal (It was originally 60 but it was resized and I never re measured).
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Fuel tank is 100 gal.
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10-06-2019, 02:29 AM
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#46
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dummiesman
Out of curiosity what's the capacity of it? The one on my model is ~70gal (It was originally 60 but it was resized and I never re measured).
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Ours is 65 gallons. So you can see that not all buses are built exactly the same, even if they are the same body style.
The water separator in the photos I provided iabove s the red cylinder with the clear bottom ... located towards the outside of the bus from the compressed air manifold. Banman's separator does not have a clear bottom, but functions the same. It takes the water and heavy debris out of the fuel before it goes into the fuel filters.
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10-06-2019, 02:56 AM
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#47
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Ours is 65 gallons. So you can see that not all buses are built exactly the same, even if they are the same body style.
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Yup. I based mine off of some info I found around here saying that some states require a min 60 gallon tank, so I just went with the bare minimum.
BeamNG has a customization menu so maybe I could add back/left/right tanks all in various sizes as options, as it would affect the actual vehicle performance and weight too
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10-06-2019, 03:40 AM
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#48
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Yes, the size and location of the fuel will affect the handling of the vehicle to some degree.
Any chance the model can have the option of raising the roof or adding cabinets or insulation so we can test out all our designs? (just kidding, sort of)
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10-06-2019, 03:47 AM
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#49
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Yes, the size and location of the fuel will affect the handling of the vehicle to some degree.
Any chance the model can have the option of raising the roof or adding cabinets or insulation so we can test out all our designs? (just kidding, sort of)
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Heh, a converted variant might actually be a fun idea ;)
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10-06-2019, 10:21 AM
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#50
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Ours is 65 gallons. So you can see that not all buses are built exactly the same, even if they are the same body style.
The water separator in the photos I provided iabove s the red cylinder with the clear bottom ... located towards the outside of the bus from the compressed air manifold. Banman's separator does not have a clear bottom, but functions the same. It takes the water and heavy debris out of the fuel before it goes into the fuel filters.
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It wants to be clear...
Definitely needed cleaning...
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10-06-2019, 10:36 PM
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#51
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by banman
It wants to be clear...
Definitely needed cleaning...
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To be honest, mine needs a cleaning too ... and it is a yellow color. Yours looks to be a deeper shade of amber. In the forst picture though, it looked brown! So, your separator bowl is now way cleaner than mine!
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10-07-2019, 10:34 PM
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#52
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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(nevermind, asked something based on an incorrect assumption)
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10-08-2019, 01:46 AM
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#53
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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I thought you might be avoiding us!
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10-08-2019, 01:54 AM
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#54
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
I thought you might be avoiding us!
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Just a bit burned out from modeling stuff. I've only got a small todo list left (e.g. interior mirror) but the final steps are always the hardest
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10-08-2019, 01:59 AM
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#55
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Looking good! Do you need pictures of the mirror? Just today, I added extension bars to get mine up higher. I have a tall sitting height.
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10-08-2019, 02:19 AM
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#56
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Native
Looking good! Do you need pictures of the mirror? Just today, I added extension bars to get mine up higher. I have a tall sitting height.
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The more references the better ;)
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10-08-2019, 03:44 AM
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#57
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Here is an old photo I happen to have right now. It shows the mirror mounting bracket and the shade. The mirror was not installed at the time of the photograph. I will have to take a photo as it is right now and post it in a bit.
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10-08-2019, 04:02 AM
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#58
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Here is the bulkhead WITH the mirror installed.
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10-08-2019, 09:52 PM
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#59
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Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2019
Location: Ontario, Canada
Posts: 192
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Awesome. Those pictures + a part listing brochure for sizing and attachment meant I could complete this area
EDIT: oh, what's with the shape of the roof by the way? Just a styling choice?
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10-09-2019, 04:33 AM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,860
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dummiesman
Awesome. Those pictures + a part listing brochure for sizing and attachment meant I could complete this area
EDIT: oh, what's with the shape of the roof by the way? Just a styling choice?
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It does look good! Nice job. You are quick at making the changes.
The shape of the roof is for roll survivability ... no sharp edges to catch.
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