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03-19-2018, 07:30 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
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Come on guys ospho coroseal rustoleam
Which is the best converter ospho coro seal rustoleum any thoughts? About to apply soon
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03-19-2018, 08:00 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Frisco, Texas
Posts: 829
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: Dt466e
Rated Cap: 71
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That one!
I'm not at this step, but what I've seen reccomended more often than not on this forum is ospho
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03-19-2018, 08:23 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario
Posts: 1,796
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: B3800 Short bus
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 36
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I haven't used Corroseal, but assuming it's similar to Ospho and other phosphoric acid based rust converters it should work just fine. The phosphoric acid is what does the work. The rest is just proprietary fluff, in my opinion. I wouldn't sweat it.
Rustoleum, on the other hand, is an affordable oil based paint. Very different from the others you listed. You'll want to treat the steel with a rust converter first and paint afterwords.
Rustoleum fits into the "OK" category of paints. It's cheap, fairly durable, looks alright. Certainly it has no comparison to automotive 2-part paints. That being said, I painted my bus with the stuff and I'm happy with it. Use an enamel hardener and you'll reduce the dry time from several months to several weeks Yeah, it's a slow dry.
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03-20-2018, 06:51 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: Brevard County, FL
Posts: 911
Year: 1990
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Chassis: Ford
Engine: 6.6 New Holland Diesel
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I will be using TotalBoat Rust Primer. Should have first coat down this weekend. I'll come back to post pictures.
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03-20-2018, 07:06 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Jan 2018
Location: southeast Mi.
Posts: 25
Year: 2000
Coachwork: international
Chassis: blue bird t444e 6 window at545
Engine: 7.3 international
Rated Cap: 2
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Originally Posted by jjhwick119
That one!
I'm not at this step, but what I've seen reccomended more often than not on this forum is ospho
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ospho what I'm using two coats looks like black metal then oil base paint
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03-20-2018, 10:12 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Tahoe
Posts: 513
Year: 1997
Coachwork: International
Chassis: 3000RE
Engine: T444E w/ MT643
Rated Cap: 84 pass, 40'
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Por 15 has some fans, too. I got the impression that it maybe converts and sort of seals at the same time? I think it's more expensive, but if it saves you a step, it might be worth looking into. I already have a gallon of Ospho so I'm starting with that. I might use something different underneath if I run out doing the inside.
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03-20-2018, 10:40 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
Posts: 86
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Adhesive
How about an adhesive / caulk I’m having to replace two of the sheets of flooring and was needing to glue it down to the frame and seal the sides so she’s watertight
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03-20-2018, 10:59 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Originally Posted by 2martins
Por 15 has some fans, too. I got the impression that it maybe converts and sort of seals at the same time? I think it's more expensive, but if it saves you a step, it might be worth looking into. I already have a gallon of Ospho so I'm starting with that. I might use something different underneath if I run out doing the inside.
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POR 15 as explained to me isnt a rust converter but a rust encapsulator.. so it seals it up and keeps new rust from forming.. I have used it alot in old car projects.. it is awesome stuff and works great but a total PITA as far as clean-up is concerned.. dont get it on you is all i can say.. you definitely dont wash POR-15 off of you with water in the sink.
-Christopher
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03-20-2018, 11:15 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
Posts: 2,627
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: Cummins 6CTA8.3 Mechanical MD3060
Rated Cap: 46 Coach Seats, 40 foot
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POR15 is a sealant, not a rust converter.
It's very expensive but useful for things like sealing motorcycle gas tanks that have developed tiny pin-holes.
I wouldn't be using it on a bus.
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03-20-2018, 11:22 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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All the rust converters should be more or less equivalent. THe active ingredient is the same. As long as you follow treatment with a good clean up (sweep!) and cover it with a protective layer (rust preventing oil based enamel or similar) the particular converter you use shouldn't matter.
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03-20-2018, 12:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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The only rust "coverter" I have found that was any different from most is a product called "Restore" by Quest Chemical. Been using it on the rebar in my sculpture for well over a decade now. Unlike most other products, it does not need a topcoat in order to get the protection. It converts the surface oxidation to an organic compound plus forms a tough polymer finish all in one pass.
Tested it for about four years trying to force rusting on some rebar and could not get any to form. Naturally, I am using it all over my bus.
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03-20-2018, 01:11 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Raleigh nc
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Can I glue flooring to that? Or should I glue to metal and apply around it?
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03-20-2018, 03:02 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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I treated my floor and then added a couple of coats of an insulating paint (no room for anything else). Then glued and screwed marine ply on top of it all.
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