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02-11-2018, 07:31 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Concerns regarding humidity
Im trying to draw/write out and think about everything before i go at it. One of my more recent thoughts was the fact that florida is hot and humid. I imagine the tepmerature when i get into my car, this summer the CD cases in my car literally warped from the heat. So it could probibly get that way in a skoolie yes? I have plans for solar panals on top and about 8 batteries to hold a charge for night time and also having the option to plug in if available but is there somthing i could add that would keep it not blazing hot and humid when im not in, vent fans or a small low powered ac? Has anyone done this or enountered this problem?
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02-11-2018, 07:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy21
Im trying to draw/write out and think about everything before i go at it. One of my more recent thoughts was the fact that florida is hot and humid. I imagine the tepmerature when i get into my car, this summer the CD cases in my car literally warped from the heat. So it could probibly get that way in a skoolie yes? I have plans for solar panals on top and about 8 batteries to hold a charge for night time and also having the option to plug in if available but is there somthing i could add that would keep it not blazing hot and humid when im not in, vent fans or a small low powered ac? Has anyone done this or enountered this problem?
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02-11-2018, 08:00 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Originally Posted by Jdawgsfanasty
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Nope[emoji52][emoji52]
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02-11-2018, 08:04 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2017
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Originally Posted by Rudy21
Nope[emoji52][emoji52]
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Idk...Montana b/t may and Sept?
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02-11-2018, 08:33 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
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There are times when my bus gets hotter than I can stand way up North here in Oregon. These are a metal box, and you know how hot a metal box can get in the summertime.
Discussions have been about using a raised skin, like on a landrover roof, to deflect heat. Shades, like the RVs have, or awnings they're called. That still won't do anything about that massive humidity. Wrong state for comfortable temps in the summertime. You won't like AZ either in the summer.
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02-11-2018, 09:06 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
There are times when my bus gets hotter than I can stand way up North here in Oregon. These are a metal box, and you know how hot a metal box can get in the summertime.
Discussions have been about using a raised skin, like on a landrover roof, to deflect heat. Shades, like the RVs have, or awnings they're called. That still won't do anything about that massive humidity. Wrong state for comfortable temps in the summertime. You won't like AZ either in the summer.
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Yeah florida isnt the most ideal place to be trying to live in a skoolie haha. Thanks for the input tho
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02-11-2018, 09:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
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Have you considered pulling your ceiling panels and filling that 2" cavity with insulation?
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02-11-2018, 09:30 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Have you considered pulling your ceiling panels and filling that 2" cavity with insulation?
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I really didnt want to have to mess with the cealing if i dont have to, not so much because i dont want to but from a budget aspect, i was thinking about coating the top of the bus with a thick rubber sealant (forget what its called) ive heard that helps a lot
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02-11-2018, 09:38 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy21
I really didnt want to have to mess with the cealing if i dont have to, not so much because i dont want to but from a budget aspect, i was thinking about coating the top of the bus with a thick rubber sealant (forget what its called) ive heard that helps a lot
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There isn't a cheap and easy way to do this if you want to even begin to stay warm in winter and cool in summer.
Bottom line is that either you do it right, or simply accept that it won't ever be the way you want it.
You can get the roof decently insulated and break the thermal bridges for a few hundred dollars (and a lot of work). In the context of a bus conversion, it's not one of the big ticket items.
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02-11-2018, 09:46 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
There isn't a cheap and easy way to do this if you want to even begin to stay warm in winter and cool in summer.
Bottom line is that either you do it right, or simply accept that it won't ever be the way you want it.
You can get the roof decently insulated and break the thermal bridges for a few hundred dollars (and a lot of work). In the context of a bus conversion, it's not one of the big ticket items.
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Your right this definetly wont be cheap in any aspect but i still want to try to be cost consious. I probibly should just insulate it
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02-11-2018, 09:48 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
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Originally Posted by Rudy21
Your right this definetly wont be cheap in any aspect but i still want to try to be cost consious. I probibly should just insulate it
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I get it. My budget is tight too.
It's just that failing to do some things right in the first place will cost you down the road.
In this case ... more to heat, more to cool and it will never really feel comfortable.
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02-11-2018, 09:49 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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Metal conducts heat so it radiates it when it is hot and gets condensation when cold. If being comfy and dry is important there isn’t really any way around creating an envelope of thermal breaks and vapor barriers.
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02-11-2018, 09:53 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Twigg
I get it. My budget is tight too.
It's just that failing to do some things right in the first place will cost you down the road.
In this case ... more to heat, more to cool and it will never really feel comfortable.
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Ohhh, youre right. I should think about further down the road, espesially if i ever decide to move on to a colder climate
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02-11-2018, 09:54 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
Metal conducts heat so it radiates it when it is hot and gets condensation when cold. If being comfy and dry is important there isn’t really any way around creating an envelope of thermal breaks and vapor barriers.
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I didnt even think about the condensation Dx you make a good point
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02-11-2018, 09:56 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2017
Location: Chattanooga, TN
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I didn’t think about it either till i had a bus and it started raining inside even though there were no leaks...and it wasn’t raining outside!
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02-11-2018, 09:58 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 26
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Quote:
Originally Posted by david.dgeorge07
I didn’t think about it either till i had a bus and it started raining inside even though there were no leaks...and it wasn’t raining outside!
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Oh no [emoji26][emoji15]
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02-11-2018, 11:06 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
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It's all true, even from different parts of the country. It will start dripping above where you're sitting within about 15 minutes. It's miserable to read or anything from the condensation from your body. Unbelievable.
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02-11-2018, 11:48 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Owasso, OK
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The good news is that most of the doom and gloom is fixable.
Create a well sealed and insulated envelope. Break the thermal bridges as much as you can.
Allow for very good ventilation and heat the bus with dry air ... either blown air from a sealed diesel or propane heater, or some use a woodstove if not traveling much.
Do a minimum of cooking inside and soon it becomes a routine.
Condensation will happen when the air temp outside drops a few degrees (anywhere in the country), and the air in the bus is loaded with moisture.
If that happens, crank up the heat inside and turn on the ventilation fans.
This is totally doable.
Cranking up the heat allows the air to hold more moisture and increasing the ventilation swaps the moist interior air for drier outside air.
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02-12-2018, 04:42 AM
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Bus Geek
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rudy21
Yeah florida isnt the most ideal place to be trying to live in a skoolie haha. Thanks for the input tho
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Getting rid of the metal interior, insulating, and having AC will make a bus way more livable in FL.
Two-week conversions will always have a lot of shortcomings.
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02-12-2018, 06:02 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2018
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Getting rid of the metal interior, insulating, and having AC will make a bus way more livable in FL.
Two-week conversions will always have a lot of shortcomings.
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Arighty thanks! haha i plan on working on the conversion over the course pf a year so hopefully i can get eveything done right [emoji106]
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