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[Biscuitsjam]

My buddy's grandmother in Alaska is alert, conscious, and has been on a ventilator for 3 days now. The hospital needs the ventilator for other patients, so if her blood oxygen levels don't improve in 24 hours, they're sending her home for "end of life care."

[Native]

Originally Posted by JDSquared

and again, just like Georgia.

I sense a common theme in the south.

I sure hope you do not consider Texas as being in the south in this case. Granted, our neighbors are in tough spots about now.

[Dummiesman]

On the northern side of the border, here in Ontario, all non essential buisnesses are closed, and otherwise we keep being told to stay home.

Then I hear on the radio about Tim Hortons lines being out the door

I don't like not having the option to leave home (these days it's for food trips or just a calming drive), and I'm hoping people start getting the message before that becomes mandatory

[DreamWeaverBus]

Originally Posted by kazetsukai

Not much different in NH tbh.



I sense a common theme in this thread- Not sure what some people are expecting / hoping for exactly- martial law? Hard enforcement of curfews? Arresting people who go out? What?

I just gotta say, you're the first person I've seen spell 'martial' correctly so far...

I can see a long slippery and rocky slope of worst case scenarios to go from here.
Alternatively, we could do things right and come out on the other side better as a species in general.

Hope for the best, prepare for the worst? I don't know what to think: the future is anyone's guess. To quote Master Yoda: "The Dark Side clouds everything. Impossible to see, the future is."

[Oscar1]

Originally Posted by kazetsukai

Not much different in NH tbh.



I sense a common theme in this thread- Not sure what some people are expecting / hoping for exactly- martial law? Hard enforcement of curfews? Arresting people who go out? What?

I’m only hoping for common sense, the idea of arresting people and martial law do not impress me. Just wishing for more from mankind, can you imagine with the current state of mind of so many and without gov intervention and the common sense of most where this could go(millions dead) honestly it’s my opinion that the world is way over populated and we are the virus. Every time something like this develop’s where does it start? In a hugely populated area. Nobody in Bupkas Idaho ever discovered bat soup. Is this whole world economy really the best thing? Look at what we’ve come to accept? We buy a new tv and it’s obsolete before it’s out of the package, remember when a washer/dryer combo lasted 25 years? Consumerism has changed the world and not in a good way, the fuel in that ship to bring you that new tv and the packaging in the land fill is quickly followed by the cheap product itself.
My apologies, the rant is over for now.
Take care all.

[DreamWeaverBus]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

My buddy's grandmother in Alaska is alert, conscious, and has been on a ventilator for 3 days now. The hospital needs the ventilator for other patients, so if her blood oxygen levels don't improve in 24 hours, they're sending her home for "end of life care."

Biscuitsjam, I sincerely hope your friend's gramma gets better!

[Oscar1]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

My buddy's grandmother in Alaska is alert, conscious, and has been on a ventilator for 3 days now. The hospital needs the ventilator for other patients, so if her blood oxygen levels don't improve in 24 hours, they're sending her home for "end of life care."

Very sorry to hear that terrible news.

[bus-bro]

In my state, that be Washington, the whole social distancing and stay-at-home thing has worked very well at reducing virus transmissions. But then again this is the land of the Seattle freeze. If they say six feet we'll take twelve.

The thing is that you've got to stay in front of the virus. If you wait for it to start burning in a population, you're too late. That is what the South is doing. So they will have a higher morbidity and mortality rate than they would otherwise have had if they would of taken some timely proactive action.

[Phatman]

Originally Posted by Native

I sure hope you do not consider Texas as being in the south in this case. Granted, our neighbors are in tough spots about now.

Well here in Texas, Governor Abbott has pretty much shut down anyone coming from Louisiana or through Louisiana will be quarantined or risk criminal arrest.

[Native]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

My buddy's grandmother in Alaska is alert, conscious, and has been on a ventilator for 3 days now. The hospital needs the ventilator for other patients, so if her blood oxygen levels don't improve in 24 hours, they're sending her home for "end of life care."

That is not medical care, that is a death sentence!


What happened to "first, do no harm"???

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by kazetsukai

Not much different in NH tbh.



I sense a common theme in this thread- Not sure what some people are expecting / hoping for exactly- martial law? Hard enforcement of curfews? Arresting people who go out? What?

Hard times call for some hard measures.
There should be some expectation of sacrificing a bit for the greater good.

I wonder if we'll see the FEMA camps and plastic coffins utilized.

[Biscuitsjam]

Originally Posted by Native

That is not medical care, that is a death sentence!


What happened to "first, do no harm"???

It's called triage. If you only have one respirator but two patients, who do you try to save? The one with a 30% chance or the one with a 70% chance? Whichever you choose, the other will die.

There are only 160 ICU beds and 122 ventilators in the entire state, and there is an RSV outbreak as well. Alaska's making those choices already.

[Biscuitsjam]

This article is from Texas, but it is the same story I'm hearing about Alaska and Georgia - I'm pretty sure this is true across the country:

https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

"The 25-county region surrounding Houston had reported fewer than 950 confirmed coronavirus cases among its 9.3 million residents as of Monday. But on that same day, there were 996 people hospitalized in the region with confirmed or suspected cases of COVID-19, according to the advisory council count. That figure is not cumulative and does not include patients with COVID-19 who were hospitalized and released before Monday."

996 HOSPITALIZED patients but only 950 CONFIRMED cases...

[kazetsukai]

Originally Posted by Oscar1

I’m only hoping for common sense, the idea of arresting people and martial law do not impress me.

That's very vague.

Originally Posted by Oscar1

and without gov intervention and the common sense of most where this could go(millions dead) honestly it’s my opinion that the world is way over populated and we are the virus.

This is just crazy. The idea that governments around the world are keeping this in check is a joke. People who were paying attention knew what was coming and knew what the answer was- isolation. Thankfully these people (and public health officials) have been able to convince their neighbors and family to do so voluntarily.

The government (as in elected officials) are not in control of this. If anything it is the idea of government that has the most influence in this scenario, the idea that someone smarter and stronger is in charge and doing what is needed to fix this. The greatest fear I've seen thus far is that as the government (an organization of people) continues to fail to deliver on its core obligations of safety and security which it was never was truly capable of- the idea of government itself will fail and society will fall into chaos and anarchy.

Society works and government does its thing because of the consent of the governed. If you remove the consent the will of the government as an organization of people becomes irrelevant.

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

Hard times call for some hard measures.
There should be some expectation of sacrificing a bit for the greater good.

This is also vague. I'm not trying to be confrontational- but why don't any of you be specific as to what you're calling for when you complain about your governors not going far enough?

In the United States there exists no authority to generally ban assembly under any circumstance, that's reality. Be careful what you wish for, you might just get it.

[JDSquared]

Originally Posted by kazetsukai

Not much different in NH tbh.



I sense a common theme in this thread- Not sure what some people are expecting / hoping for exactly- martial law? Hard enforcement of curfews? Arresting people who go out? What?

Just leadership. Like someone posted lower in this thread, waiting so long like we are doing in the south is hurting people.
I mean, Kemp was in charge of counting his own votes for election. You can't convince many people here he didn't steal it.

Yesterday he said nobody knew you could transmit this virus without showing symptoms. That's willful ignorance or blatant lying. Either way it's not what our state needs right now. I don't want martial law but I want the governor to tell us this is serious and stay the **** home if you can.

[EastCoastCB]

I don't think its vague.
I think folks all have different ideas and expectations.

I'm not too worried. We're fairly well stocked and not going anywhere. If trouble comes to us we're more than armed and more than ready.

I think folks congregating in large numbers ought to be the first put into the fema camps. I think the headshop I buy my weed supplies at shouldn't be open for business as "essential" but they are. I'm willing to forego the convenience for the greater good. I'm a huge pot smoker, but I think that the dispensaries shouldn't be open. They should do touch free delivery or shut down. How's that?
I think mcdonalds should close till this is under some sort of control. Why would anyone be eating fast food at a time like this? its beyond me.
My entire town is going like there's nothing wrong at all. Old people are still using community pools. Everything's open. Everyone I know called me bragging about their "special exemption form" handed out by every employer.
If its not essential and folks still flock to these places then they should be fined the first time and jailed the next time.
Hard choices have to be made. homeless and indigent would obviously be the first to go to the fema camps. That's a no brainer. They're already using some of the camps in just that way. During that bit hepatitis outbreak in Ca a year or two ago they put all the homeless in fema temporary tent camps.
Disease and plague aren't fun. We're not accustomed to it. We're all wanting our comfy lives to be uninterrupted by this. But its all gotta get a lot worse before its ever going to get any better.
Sure other countries aren't perfect. No one is. But we're the osterich with its head in the sand here in FL.
The Tampa pastor still telling folks the virus isn't real and that their air purifiers zap a virus out of the air... They're still gathering. Maybe setup a nice fema camp for em so they can all congregate all the time.

[JDSquared]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

This article is from Texas, but it is the same story I'm hearing about Alaska and Georgia - I'm pretty sure this is true across the country:

https://news.google.com/articles/CAI...S&ceid=US%3Aen

"The 25-county region surrounding Houston had reported fewer than 950 confirmed coronavirus cases among its 9.3 million residents as of Monday. But on that same day, there were 996 people hospitalized in the region with confirmed or suspected cases of COVID-19, according to the advisory council count. That figure is not cumulative and does not include patients with COVID-19 who were hospitalized and released before Monday."

996 HOSPITALIZED patients but only 950 CONFIRMED cases...

My ex just told me she has a friend in the hospital now who is being treated for covid-19 but not being tested. I guess she got the news involved.

There's no way we are going to ever have accurate numbers on this thing.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by JDSquared

My ex just told me she has a friend in the hospital now who is being treated for covid-19 but not being tested. I guess she got the news involved.

There's no way we are going to ever have accurate numbers on this thing.

The next election seems to be all that anyone's concerned with.
Miraculously gone by april my ass.

[Phatman]

We all want to survive this thing, but if this thing manages to kill the economy and a lot of business cannot rebound, what then?

[EastCoastCB]

Then hungry folks will welcome gov't camps and those horrible civilian disaster mre's.