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Old 04-18-2020, 10:05 AM   #601
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I've read both the AFA piece and the Townhall article, and anytime I see an article that contains plenty of unsourced quotes I have at least a little trouble taking that article seriously.

But reading the Townhall piece, which the AFA article seems to be based on, I see a far more serious problem. I'm talking about the way they reject Prof. Fergusson's model for predicting coronavirus fatalities because that model did not work for predicting the fatalities from "mad cow disease".

I think that's pretty ridiculous. Those are 2 very different diseases, spread in 2 very different ways, and more importantly scientists had no way of accurately gauging how many of the prions that cause "mad cow disease" were actually getting into the food supply. So to be safe they assumed there were a lot of prions entering the food supply.

As it turns out there weren't a lot, and so fatality predictions were way high. And of course, those high predictions had the effect of making people eat less meat, except me because I raised my own vegetarian fed pigs in those days, which may have had the effect of keeping the fatalities down.

So I read both these articles without feeling the slightest urge to rush out and start hugging people because we've made it through the crisis. We have not made it through the crisis yet, and we should not allow ourselves be distracted by people who have a strong need to prove that Trump has done something right.

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Old 04-18-2020, 10:09 AM   #602
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I'm hoping they have more than the one location. Its a few hours drive down there.

That's great news. I want to hear more about this.
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That's great news. I want to hear more about this.
I've sent them a message on FB. They take 20 people a day so it may be a while. Its promising, though. I bet we get more locations soon.
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Old 04-18-2020, 10:22 AM   #604
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I've sent them a message on FB. They take 20 people a day so it may be a while. Its promising, though. I bet we get more locations soon.

I'm sure there will be more test kits available soon, but the question is how many, Thanks for posting this.
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Yeah, man. I'm as anxious to get back to "normal" as anyone. But we gotta be safe about it. These tests should be a requisite for areas wanting to abolish social distancing.
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:19 PM   #606
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So far, about all I can find is a related page on the Whitehouse.gov site which is a slight elaboration of the link you posted. It is a Fact Sheet.

I can't find any more either. My search reports are just full of comments on Trump's announcement. And I have now followed almost every link on both of those White House pages, without finding any more details on Trump's plan. But I can't say that is because they have not published any more details.

I tried to exclude .com pages from my search results and just look at .gov sites, but I couldn't get that to work. What I got was one or two .gov or .org sites at the top of a long list of .com sites.

So I am giving up on this for now at least, but this might be a good link to follow in the future: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/
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I can't find any more either. My search reports are just full of comments on Trump's announcement. And I have now followed almost every link on both of those White House pages, without finding any more details on Trump's plan. But I can't say that is because they have not published any more details.

I tried to exclude .com pages from my search results and just look at .gov sites, but I couldn't get that to work. What I got was one or two .gov or .org sites at the top of a long list of .com sites.

So I am giving up on this for now at least, but this might be a good link to follow in the future: https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/
I am placing this in the "it would have been nice to see that document" category. None of us need to read more comments on what was said ... we can all listen or read it ourself. I guess it gives the "journalists" something to do.
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I've sent them a message on FB. They take 20 people a day so it may be a while. Its promising, though. I bet we get more locations soon.
Bear in mind that there are a LOT of scams out there. Thus, you should ask yourself and those that provide the test ... "are these people licensed medical professionals?"
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:06 PM   #609
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I am placing this in the "it would have been nice to see that document" category. None of us need to read more comments on what was said ... we can all listen or read it ourself. I guess it gives the "journalists" something to do.

I've quit too. I can't say for sure that's all there is, but I can say that if there's more they have not made it easy to find, and I have plenty of better things to do.

And I think there is more than enough there to make a judgement about how this effects my perception of Trump's performance as our fearless leader.
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Deleted. And ignored. Sometimes I forget that ive ceased fighting everything and everybody.
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Old 04-18-2020, 07:26 PM   #611
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Bear in mind that there are a LOT of scams out there. Thus, you should ask yourself and those that provide the test ... "are these people licensed medical professionals?"
Its totally not a scam. Sandi is in the medical profession and gave the the info. IIRC she went today and got a test.
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I'd like a COVID-19 antibody test 'cause if I already had it then I wouldn't worry about being ventilated. They say its been circulating in my state since January.

That said, this whole episode raises my latent survivalist instinct, and I realize I don't have a radiation detector! (By that you can guess how old I am.) For the $165 that the antibody test cost that would be one third of the way to paying for a radiation meter.rolleyes:
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Old 04-18-2020, 09:43 PM   #613
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I also am a member of the bend over and kiss your behind goodbye generation. I remember A-bomb drills in Junior High while Kennedy and Kruschev tried to see who would flinch first. They took us into the basement. My class got the furnace room.

I remember wondering out loud whether we were all going to be steamed to death when the boiler burst, raising serious questions about the utility of such an excercise, and wondering why the Russians would waste a perfectly good A-bomb on our hick town.

I got a lot of laughter from my classmates, before being told very firmly by the principal to shut up. Adults associated with the school system never seemed to appreciate my humor in those days, but I usually took my role as the class clown quite seriously. Now though, I don't think the way they were trying to brainwash us into the cold war mentality was very funny at all.
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I'd like a COVID-19 antibody test 'cause if I already had it then I wouldn't worry about being ventilated. They say its been circulating in my state since January.

That said, this whole episode raises my latent survivalist instinct, and I realize I don't have a radiation detector! (By that you can guess how old I am.) For the $165 that the antibody test cost that would be one third of the way to paying for a radiation meter.rolleyes:
There's an online petition I sent to lots of folks and man the hate I was getting... I think people have made corona 100% a partisan politics issue in their minds.
All I wanted was my friends and family to click a box to say "lets get EVERYONE antibody/Covid testing". That will get us back to work faster and safer.
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As far as a pandemic response, the US is going into an go epic failure. It would be a lot easier if there was coordination between the states. As it is, we will playing whack-a-mole for a while.

We can only hope the virus isn't too bad and that people instinctively try to slow it down. After all, this ain't humanity's first go-round with a virus.
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Oh yeah, it has become a partisan issue while nearly 2000 people have died TODAY. And the day is not over and the counting is not done. There has been a new record set for deaths daily for the last while, and it is still too early to say for sure that there won't be another record today, and even if there's not the way things are going there still could be tomorrow.
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saw this one on Twitter-


That pretty much sums up how bad a fight we're in for. FL is so bad- one of the trending hashtags is #FloridaMorons
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The Twitter link in the email I got about this post works OK, just not here for some reason. That's quite a picture, or rather 2 pictures.
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Old 04-19-2020, 11:40 AM   #619
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Here's a Johns Hopkins University link people might find handy. It allows searching their data of confirmed cases and reported deaths by state and county.

It helped me find out that my county has 1 confirmed case and 0 reported deaths. Personally, I intend to keep acting the same way I did yesterday, but now I understand why most people here don't wear masks, and I am not going to be so threatened by that



https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/us-map
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That pretty much sums up how bad a fight we're in for. FL is so bad- one of the trending hashtags is #FloridaMorons
That's my hometown making the news again. HB has always had a little bit of central Florida in it.
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