COVID-19 | Effects on Skoolies - No Politics please.

[UFO pilot]

Hey All, I have not checked in to this thread in a while. Still going on just like the virus I see. Too soon? Ok I suck.

I wanted to be a good boy and get a test my state is paying for anyway so I got in line a week ago today (friday). Line means after I signed up on the provider website and got a patient ID number I was in and out within 10 minutes. No crowd at all. Despite the promise of results within 5 days I still don't have my results. By way of comparison my Significant Other has VA healthcare, got tested the same day, and still does not have her results either.
After I got tested I put the info about the testing team available on our little towns unofficial FB page along with the lost dog announcements and political crossfire. I actually didn't get the grief I was expecting so yay for sharing information without killing the messenger.

Side note, the testing crew has been busier this past week right as California sees an upticks in cases. Stay safe people!

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by UFO pilot

Hey All, I have not checked in to this thread in a while. Still going on just like the virus I see. Too soon? Ok I suck.

I wanted to be a good boy and get a test my state is paying for anyway so I got in line a week ago today (friday). Line means after I signed up on the provider website and got a patient ID number I was in and out within 10 minutes. No crowd at all. Despite the promise of results within 5 days I still don't have my results. By way of comparison my Significant Other has VA healthcare, got tested the same day, and still does not have her results either.
After I got tested I put the info about the testing team available on our little towns unofficial FB page along with the lost dog announcements and political crossfire. I actually didn't get the grief I was expecting so yay for sharing information without killing the messenger.

Side note, the testing crew has been busier this past week right as California sees an upticks in cases. Stay safe people!

Stay safe, UFO!

[Native]

Update:


Texas governor Abbot has now put the opening of Texas on "pause" due to the spike in new cases. He has suspended elective surgeries in the highest rate counties to include Dallas county (city of Dallas) and Harris county (city of Houston). He also ordered bars to close again and to reduce restaurant occupancy from 75% down to 50%. Travellers are to self-quarantine for 14 days.



Here in Tarrant County, the mask mandate is in effect with the businesses being liable for fines if they do not have signage and if their employees do not wear masks. Mask wearing is mandated anywhere in public where an estimate of 100+ people are gathered and in businesses. Other public mask wearing is strongly urged.

[banman]

Today: From a friend of mine who's a nurse in Phoenix...
Reads like things are already on the edge there...

I've had a lot of family and friends reach out to me about how my hospital is.

A friend got this from the state 48 nursing page- Here’s a little insight to what AZ hospitals are looking like right now...

Banner Desert:
3 COVID telemetry units full (❤️ patients)
1 medsurg (regular floor) COVID unit full
2/3 ICU dedicated to COVID only, 3 patients to 1 RN ratio (normally 2:1)
Expanded regular ER into pediatric ER
Using some peds floors for adults
Code purple (hospital full or approaching full and not enough staff to cover upcoming shifts)
Interventional radiology (vascular procedures) filling separate, additional ICU

Banner Boswell:
Converting several regular units to COVID. Stopped elective surgeries

Banner Baywood:
ICU 3:1 ratio. Code purple
4 PCU COVID units
1 Med Surg COVID unit
With doubling up confirmed positive COVID patients

Banner Estrella:
Doubling up patients in rooms
6 COVID units

Banner Cardons Children’s Hospital:
3 of 5 floors dedicated to adults
ER has lots of hallway beds (patients don’t get a real room)

Banner University Phoenix:
2 of 3 ICUs dedicated to COVID.
Progressive Care Unit (PCU) dedicated to COVID patients with a second one coming soon.
2 COVID medsurg floors

Valleywise Hospital:
2 COVID ICUs, 4 COVID medsurg units
Code lavender (same as code purple)
Asked for 26 travel RNs, only received 6

St. Joe’s:
4 COVID ICUs. Now placing double beds in rooms. 64 beds currently occupied
Stopped elective surgeries today.
Difficulty accommodating traumas, strokes, brain aneurysms due to shortage of ICU beds.
Pulmonologist Intensivist (critical care lung doctor) working 7 days a week.

Dignity Chandler:
27 vented COVID - will double patients in rooms once they get to 32, max 64
3 medsurg floors COVID

Mercy Gilbert:
2 ICUs COVID full
2 medsurg floors COVID full

Honor Health Shea:
30 medsurg COVID beds full
One ICU unit full, took 5 beds from the “clean” (non-COVID) ICU.

Honor Health Osborn:
40 COVID medsurg beds full
3/4 ICUs dedicated to COVID and overflowing into ER & PACU (post anesthesia care unit)
10 rooms available for COVID patients but no one to staff them

Helicopter pilot from Yuma medical center flying patients to Phx because Yuma is full

Tucson Medical Center called me at 9pm saying they are in desperate need of ICU NPs and will require an 8-12 week contract. (I’m not trained in critical care).

*Lots of stories of Arizona healthcare workers breaking down crying at work, calling out sick therefore being very short staffed for the next shift, and actually getting sick with COVID. EVERYONE is working overtime. Healthcare workers are getting slammed. My heart goes out to all of them ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

Please continue practicing social distancing. Wash your hands. Avoid going to crowded places. Avoid touching your face/eyes/ears/nose.

[EastCoastCB]

This just in-

Breaking News!
Did you guys know the FDA just approved a drug that reduces your chance of getting COVID-19 by 5X? It’s trade name is called Wearamaskasshole. Side effects include mild inconvienience, possible victim complex, fear of people thinking you are a sheeple, being ostracized by your plandemic bros, and the power to stop your own asymptomatic transmission as this country stubbornly dives right on into that second wave.

Check with your doctor, or really anyone, to see if Wearamaskasshole is right for you.

Yes totally stole this.... Put a mask on. Don't kill anyone.

[banman]

ECCB -- that post is awesome!

[Native]

Me ... ... a few seconds ago!

[EastCoastCB]

Credit for that hilarious post goes to Sandi aka Wanderwoman. She'd posted it to FB today and I laughed pretty good at that one.
I love PSA's that have some humor!

[Native]

Well then thank you Wanderwoman!

[joeblack5]

when i see our leadership and government faltering ( by my opinion) then I think maybe the plan is....





“The greater the suffering, the greater the peace.” – Mission: Impossible – Fallout Review

If you want to run a country like a business then it is not so bad to have it go bankrupt once in a while. DT has plenty experience in doing just that and getting away with it
Johan

[witchywoman]

I thought we were to leave politics out if this....

At any rate, no one knows the real numbers, panic doesn’t help. Just do the right thing, wear a mask when out, wash your hands, and be safe out there.

[EastCoastCB]

The Fl #'s come in around 11am. Wondering if 9000 yesterday was this weeks zenith or if we push it even higher.

Lots of folks are thinking FL shut down bars. That's a misconception. My friends all spent the night at bars. I think they just can't drink/sell AT the actual "bar" part of the building. IDK need to look into that. All my musician friends are busy this weekend with bookings at bars.

[EastCoastCB]

Well we broke the record again.. almost 9600 cases reported in FL today.
https://www.wftv.com/news/local/flor...IQZG4PN6R4G64/

[ACamper]

Originally Posted by joeblack5

when i see our leadership and government faltering ( by my opinion) then I think maybe the plan is....

“The greater the suffering, the greater the peace.” – Mission: Impossible – Fallout Review

If you want to run a country like a business then it is not so bad to have it go bankrupt once in a while. DT has plenty experience in doing just that and getting away with it
Johan

I am not going into "politics" more economics, because most all of our pandemic management decisions and polices and be traced back to economics.

I agree our country is being run like a business not just by the most recent leaders but for a while now. In the corporate school of business management people are trained to 1-Pretend everything is profitable 2-Make the numbers look good 3-Keep people spending and investing money.
More experienced and crafty leaders know how to wrap this up into patriotism and other nonsense the lemmings will swallow and regurgitate.

In the world of pandemic management the most effective thing you can do is keep people home. That costs money and equals profit loss for those on top of the stock markets and federal banks. The last bail out was 8-billion(only 2Billion was advertised) I think about the US population got around .7 billion of it in checks UBI. Banks and corporations got the rest of the 7.3 Billion. That's why the stock market went from collapsing to up by more then 20%.

8-Billion to the people would of been about $2400. a mo for about 16mos. Along with real testing this would of had the potential to do a lot for the containment of the virus.

As of now we have missed the window of containment and control of COVD19. We are all going to get this and most of the lemmings are going to blame each other for "not wearing a mask" or "going to the beach". As the 1% pad their ever growing bank accts.

[EastCoastCB]

The mask isn't for you. Its for everyone. Its respect for the community to wear one.

My grandad was a very smart man. A dentist. But he was an avid "aids denier". He literally told every patient he saw that facemasks and rubber gloves were "a communist conspiracy by the Clintons to bankrupt the medical industry." So I get how smart people can be so deluded. I've seen it firsthand. Even at like 9 years old listening to his BS I knew how stupid what he was saying was. Aids ended up being very real. I'm sure if my grandad were alive he'd almost surely be coughing on everyone in Publix without a mask on his face.

[joeblack5]

haha Charlie, cool story,, reminds me of "how i learned to love the bomb" with essential liquids conspiracy..
Great Movie. our bomb is going of as we speak.


My post was not meant to be political just that money talks and the rest walks. DT has been a firm proponent of that theory and actually a lot of people are... all is good as long as it does not hurt their bottom line.


We are all slaves of the system and the system doing its best to keep us addicted. If just leases and credit cards would be illegal and commercials that you really need to compete with your neighbor about the largest TV, newest pickup would be banned then people would not be so tied down.


But just that "freedom" makes America what it is.


Johan

[Oscar1]

Originally Posted by joeblack5

haha Charlie, cool story,, reminds me of "how i learned to love the bomb" with essential liquids conspiracy..
Great Movie. our bomb is going of as we speak.


My post was not meant to be political just that money talks and the rest walks. DT has been a firm proponent of that theory and actually a lot of people are... all is good as long as it does not hurt their bottom line.


We are all slaves of the system and the system doing its best to keep us addicted. If just leases and credit cards would be illegal and commercials that you really need to compete with your neighbor about the largest TV, newest pickup would be banned then people would not be so tied down.


But just that "freedom" makes America what it is.


Johan

Exactly right there Johan.
Does it really matter if your truck is 10 years old if it works for you and you're having fun with your family? We are so conditioned by big business that we have to have equal or more than the next guy that all we do is go to work to amass more and spend less time where it counts. I'd like to believe that's why most of us are here, we can build our own and do just as well enjoying it as the guy that drops a half million. Nothing wrong with him doing that but at what cost? And I don't mean just financial.
Stay safe and have fun.

[ACamper]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

The mask isn't for you. Its for everyone. Its respect for the community to wear one.

Pandemic response and management is very complex. Why the focus on masks ? Because masks do not hurt profit of large corporations and the lemmings will pick it up and attack each other like mad dogs over it. It doesn't hurt profits and it creates division.

I looked at this thread hoping to find some decent conversation on the virus. Most of what I see is maddog attacks on people not wearing masks. "Knock their teeth out, attack them, they are delusional". All the while the attackers are consumer shopping, getting haircuts and other very questionable activities in a pandemic. As long as you are spending money ?

So many things to study and focus on that have a real impact on virus spread. But mad dogs want to hunt down someone not wearing a mask at the park.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by ACamper

Pandemic response and management is very complex. Why the focus on masks ? Because masks do not hurt profit of large corporations and the lemmings will pick it up and attack each other like mad dogs over it. It doesn't hurt profits and it creates division.

I looked at this thread hoping to find some decent conversation on the virus. Most of what I see is maddog attacks on people not wearing masks. "Knock their teeth out, attack them, they are delusional". All the while you guys are consumer shopping, getting haircuts and other very questionable activities in a pandemic. As long as you are spending money ?

So many things to study and focus on that have a real impact on virus spread. But mad dogs want to hunt down someone not wearing a mask at the park.

I'm not attacking you. You're just ignoring science.

https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0612172200.htm

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-...k/art-20485449

https://www.livescience.com/face-mas...revention.html

I love the Texas judge addressing all the anti-mask hate he's gotten.

EFFERSON COUNTY — Letter from County Judge Jeff Branick to the Citizens and Media of Jefferson County:

I recognized when I entered the mandatory mask order that there would be people who would not like it. What I didn’t expect was the level of pure hatred and profanity laden messages that would make a sailor blush. That’s okay, it comes with the territory. What has been most disappointing to me has been the level of insistence by many that my orders are a direct affront to their constitutional rights. The U.S. Supreme Court, since 1794, after the Whiskey Rebellion, and times since has repeatedly held that these types of orders are allowed in certain circumstances and are, in fact, constitutional. Those who say otherwise are misinformed or are depending on Natural law, not Constitutional law. I have not asked people to lay down their arms, surrender their right to free speech or to be subject to having soldiers quartered in their homes, I’ve asked them to suffer the inconvenience of placing a 4x6” piece of material over their mouth and nose when in a business to protect their friends and neighbors. Individuals who seem to have no problem with a restaurant requiring shoes and a shirt go ballistic over a business asking them to wear a mask.

Eighty years ago, the greatest generation planted victory gardens, collected tin, rubber and steel, had food ration books and endured black outs, all to support the war effort. Their sacrifices were significantly more weighty than the inconvenience the present order requires. I want to thank a fellow county judge for reminding me of this. Today, a small minority is screaming that this is some kind of communist plot to overthrow the nation. When did it happen that we all became so focused on our rights and not our obligations to our fellow man and woman? Jesus said “Greater love has no man than this, that he lay down his life for his friends”. I’m not directing anyone to lay down their life. Galatians 6:2 says “Carry each other’s burdens and in this way you will fulfill the Law of Christ”. I love you, because that is what Christ teaches us to do.

I wear a mask not because I am afraid but because it is one way of showing that I care about my neighbors. There is a lot we don’t know about COVID-19 but all the evidence suggests that wearing a mask helps to prevent the spread of the virus. If wearing a mask prevents one person from dying, then isn’t it worth the minor inconvenience? If wearing a mask helps us get our country and economy back to normal, then isn’t it our patriotic duty to do so?” I received this in an email from an Orange County resident. It is a note he keeps in his pocket which he gives to people who make snide remarks about his wearing a mask in stores.

Based on my conversations with numerous physicians, directives from the president of the Texas Medical Association, the thoughts of the head of the Department of state health services, and many others in the medical field, masks can prevent the spread of the virus. Might we find out next year after peer reviewed studies that such is not the case? Can I find a YouTube video from an OSHA inspector that supports the opposite view? Yes to both questions. But we are in the midst of the largest spread that we have seen thus far, and to prevent another shutdown of “nonessential” businesses and to keep our hospital system from becoming overwhelmed I am acting on the best available information. Those “nonessential” businesses have families to feed and mortgages to pay and I want them to be able to do that without having to worry if they are at some point going to have to depend on unemployment benefits, if they are even available to them. I will lift the order as soon as I possibly can, but in the meantime I pray for your cooperation.

Jeff Branick

County Judge

Jefferson County Courthouse

1149 Pearl St.

Beaumont, Texas 77701

Phone: (409)835-8466

Fax: (409)839-2311

[TomA]

Setting aside the whole mask politics, and I wish we could all do that, it seems to me:

Calling this leadership failure in the US any more than incompetence is indulging in conspiracy theory. This outcome for the US is incredibly bad for business, and if Corporate America really had the reins on these clowns they certainly would not be permitting this behavior.

In other countries like Australia, where the multinational business community does in fact have extraordinary access and influence on government policy, after a few weeks of politicking around with the response this lickspittle reactionary center-right government quickly got the message that bending the curve and stopping the infection was essential to the economic interests of the powerful and entrenched.

"Misunderstandings and lethargy perhaps produce more wrong in the world than deceit and malice do. At least the latter two are certainly rarer."

-Goethe, later stolen by Robert Heinlein as the "Devil's Theory" fallacy:

"You have attributed conditions to villainy that simply result from stupidity."

In my judgment, while there's plenty of the former splashing around the current leadership involved, it is the latter bringing in the tide...