COVID-19 | Effects on Skoolies - No Politics please.

[EastCoastCB]

Yeah, the mask aint meant for the chin lol.

Not much news to speak of in FL. More stupid, and more stupid.

My brother is getting his kids ready for school and baseball... Cause you know- nothing wrong down here at all.

My mom's been freaking out at how much covid is coming into the hospital.

[Biscuitsjam]

Every Soldier that travels more than 250 miles to or from Fort Benning needs a general's approval right now - the same is true for many military installations. We're very aggressive in masks, cleaning, social distancing, contact tracing, and quarantine/isolation. Every Soldier is quized on health symptoms and has their temperature taken multiple times a day. There is very little community spread on post, but Soldiers and family members keep getting exposed in town.

We lost an entire combat brigade here a few years back due to downsizing the Army. The barracks were mothballed, but are available to be used for quarantine/isolation. So far, they just have a few military personnel, but some of the state politicians keep making noises to try to change that and bus civilians from Atlanta. Not a lot of traction so far, but they keep talking on the radio.

We also built a new hospital here about 4 years ago - the old massive building is still standing, but all the equipment has been removed to prep for demolition (and we have nobody here to staff it). So far, nobody has attempted to turn it into a field hospital.

We still have basic trainees coming in - lots of field time, masks, and a quarantine before training starts. We also have students for other schools - we can't take a year or two off without devastating the force. So far, we're making it work, but the trends outside the gates are concerning. And not just covid, but also the ability to handle training accidents at local hospitals... The good news? We have lost no Soldiers on this installation to Covid.

[Native]

A testament to what full control, quarrantine, isolation, mask wearing, social distancing can do1

[dwood443]

Originally Posted by dwood443

Two of my 3 grandkids in Florida were really sick last night, fevers, runny nose, one was hallucinating and the other was short of breath. My daughter is freaking out because she says their primary doc is really no help. And she says they don't test kids? twins 5 years old and a 3 year old.

I told her to get tested herself because if she has it then they probably do too. Shes a teacher off for the summer but her husband still works as a volleyball director at a large teen volleyball association. I think he's at a large tournament now in Orlando.

I'm worried for them and I don't think he should be working with 2000 kids running around all week. Why do they allow this to go on?

Just to let everyone know the kids recovered in a day or two. two experienced normal symptoms, fever, cough, loss of taste during those 2 days. The third grandkid, my daughter and son-in-law never experienced any symptoms.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by dwood443

Just to let everyone know the kids recovered in a day or two. two experienced normal symptoms, fever, cough, loss of taste during those 2 days. The third grandkid, my daughter and son-in-law never experienced any symptoms.

Glad to hear they're feeling better!

[EastCoastCB]

Just another beautiful 10k+ case day here in the land of the mouse.
20.8% positive rate. Our deaths are over 2x higher than they were last weekend. This weeks is going to be bad. My mom says they have no more icu beds available at her hospital and they're set up a covid ward that's very busy as well.

Picked up my groceries at walmart early this morning and it looked like the mask mandate is working there. The pickup area was the busiest I've seen it yet. All good signs. On the downside there was some sort of activity at a school today and for whatever reason the bus stop is my front yard this year. Probably a half dozen unmasked neighborhood kids hanging out hollering at me and taunting me at 7:30 this morning. I hope that's a fluke and that I don't own a bus stop during covid.

[Native]

We made our monthly pilgrimage to Sam's Club today. Everyone was masked up. Nice to see.


Here is the latest edition of the CDC Emerging Infectious Disease journal.

[Form&function]

Out of the five people I know that got it my dad suffered the most. Something about inflamed arteries and blood clots,idk. My friend had a fever for four days and his roommate had diarrhea. My other friend had a good cough for about a week.

[EastCoastCB]

my skeptic cousin who has it says it feels worse than the flu. He's calling it "3x the flu". He's in his late 20's and very fit, fwiw. No health issues other than the covid he currently has.

[EastCoastCB]

9,000+ new cases here. 136 deaths.

[Mountain Gnome]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

but yeah man when I get anxious I do smoke a lot more medical supply up.

I already knew that the magic green herb was medicinal for more ills than "doctors" attribute. Medicine for the mind, emotions, body, and soul. Medicinal in terms of what modern docs say, as well as the way it is used when First Nations peoples use the term (i.e. you don't have to be "sick" to gain from "medicine").


But now they say it fights Covid-19:


https://scitechdaily.com/cbd-may-hel...n-in-covid-19/


quote:

CBD significantly downregulated classic indicators of the excess, like inflammation-promoting cytokines as it improved oxygen levels in the blood and enabled the lungs to recover from the structural damage

[EastCoastCB]

Yeah, a lot of the stoner groups I chat in have been talking about that. Seems smokers in general have a lower morbidity with covid.

Got a strain today you'll dig- its called Paradise Waits. Loving it!

[Mountain Gnome]

Big Brother and Covid-19:



https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasb.../#2b14a56857eb


The company Sabre in the post above reminds me of the company Choice Point. Among other things, they are a data conglomeration provider. They buy info from all companies - credit card companies and banks, insurance companies, retailers, etc. - about who bought what, who did what, etc. They know more about every individual in this country than any other entity -- even the individual's mother.


The government itself is prohibited from creating such a database. But is not prohibited from BUYING that information on an individual, and does not need a warrant to do so.


In the 2000 election, you might remember a certain county in S. FLA in which controversy erupted. It was either the same or a neighboring county which was also democratic, and populated by a majority of Black folks, a large portion of whom lost their rights to vote by being purged off the voting rolls at the last minute. They were "confused" with other folks with similar names, was the official government response. The names of those folks who were denied their right to vote was provided by Choice Point. "W" came to Hotlanta, where Choice Point is located, during his campaign before the election. It is (was) a privately owned company (which I worked for as a sub-contracted home owner's insurance property inspector before I came to find out how evil they were). "W" spent the night at the house of the owner of Choice Point.

The next night he spent at the house of one of the owners of Home Depot. After the election, Democrats called him out in a public speech for giving HD a break on import taxes for ceiling fans. In reality, my mom worked for HD back then, as the import manager. The tax code is really complex, based on where each individual part in a product (fan) is made and what it is made of, as well as where the product was assembled. She calculated that the ceiling fan/lights were more "lights" than "fans" (or something like that) and went to the federal import tax court in D.C. in HD's subsequent fight to get the tax rate lowered - and won. (The rep from the government told her afterwords that she was the most knowledgeable and prepared witness they ever had.)


But who called out "W" on his night with Choice Point? I only heard it in the news for 12 hours before the story was killed and buried deep.


It's companies like this that scare me far more than rhona. In the meantime, my mom still works long hours. Last week she said she hand-modified a 30,000 line spreadsheet of items (medical masks and gowns, etc.) to import or export or something. She had to positively identify what each item was (it wasn't always listed in the spreadsheet), sometimes having to go find a picture of it to tell for sure, and then make sure it had the right tax code, because "the freight forwarders are lazy and get the numbers skrewed up".

[EastCoastCB]

Getting real sad in FL. A few people on FB and on local news are in hospital beds BEGGING for plasma donations. A friend of a friend who kept playing at open mic night at a bar is currently in ICU not doing well. All his friends are desperately looking for a plasma donor, while still planning gigs at bars. maddening in the state of Floridiots.

[Biscuitsjam]

Why have Florida and Georgia levelled off for the past week? A change in behavior or a change in test availability?

[cadillackid]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

Why have Florida and Georgia levelled off for the past week? A change in behavior or a change in test availability?

its tough to believe the numbers.. some of the antiobody tests coming back (with the newer more accurate tests) are showing many more people with antibodies than they feel would have if the case reporting were correct.. in some cases as many as 10X what is expected..



this would help to explain why the virus is so rampant despite efforts to slow it down.. cases being under-reported either due to number fixing, laziness or asymptomatic patients.. or combo of all..



politics on all sides im afraid has greatly affected the reported numbers.. including hospitalizations.. obviously we can see the virus levels are increasing because more and more patients are getting admitted to the hospital.. some ICU wards are getting full.. now granted the average hospital stay for most is shorter than it previously was, the ICU patients are still bad-off.. the virus affects everyone in different ways..



im using frienbds talking about their hospitals and admissions as my guide these days more than the published numbers.. and right now hospitalizations are increasing.. typically they lag the actual case load as people just starting off testing positive either are not yet sick or are mild and try to tough it out at home before / if they go to the hospital.. my medical buddies tell me that people are showing up earlier on at the hospital than they did previously so those numbers are he feels a higher percentage.. people read about various treatments and show up looking for them.. whether it be plasma renidisvir, cholesterol drugs etc.. when this first started and there were no treatments people felt like it was useless to go to the doctor...

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by Biscuitsjam

Why have Florida and Georgia levelled off for the past week? A change in behavior or a change in test availability?

FL hasn't leveled off. We're in freefall. Limited by how many tests can be done and tested. We only had 47k tests yesterday and nearly 10k cases. Deaths are up a good bit over where we were a couple weeks ago.
At least in FL I can say for sure that our governor is having EVERYTHING done within his power to minimize the #'s and downplay the seriousness of the situation.

[EastCoastCB]

Originally Posted by cadillackid

its tough to believe the numbers.. some of the antiobody tests coming back (with the newer more accurate tests) are showing many more people with antibodies than they feel would have if the case reporting were correct.. in some cases as many as 10X what is expected..



this would help to explain why the virus is so rampant despite efforts to slow it down.. cases being under-reported either due to number fixing, laziness or asymptomatic patients.. or combo of all..



politics on all sides im afraid has greatly affected the reported numbers.. including hospitalizations.. obviously we can see the virus levels are increasing because more and more patients are getting admitted to the hospital.. some ICU wards are getting full.. now granted the average hospital stay for most is shorter than it previously was, the ICU patients are still bad-off.. the virus affects everyone in different ways..



im using frienbds talking about their hospitals and admissions as my guide these days more than the published numbers.. and right now hospitalizations are increasing.. typically they lag the actual case load as people just starting off testing positive either are not yet sick or are mild and try to tough it out at home before / if they go to the hospital.. my medical buddies tell me that people are showing up earlier on at the hospital than they did previously so those numbers are he feels a higher percentage.. people read about various treatments and show up looking for them.. whether it be plasma renidisvir, cholesterol drugs etc.. when this first started and there were no treatments people felt like it was useless to go to the doctor...

What efforts are being used to slow it down in FL? NONE

[cadillackid]

I don’t think much is being done here either. The governor won’t make a state wide indoor mask policy , he won’t acknowledge hot activities and close them ...

I fear it will get so bad he will end up pressured to shut everything down again vs taking out known high risk like Texas is trying to do.. Texas shut their bars and lowered max group counts .. I think Ohio and Florida are in the same realm.. only thing going for us is we don’t have tourists by the millions

[Biscuitsjam]

Originally Posted by EastCoastCB

FL hasn't leveled off. We're in freefall. Limited by how many tests can be done and tested. We only had 47k tests yesterday and nearly 10k cases. Deaths are up a good bit over where we were a couple weeks ago.
At least in FL I can say for sure that our governor is having EVERYTHING done within his power to minimize the #'s and downplay the seriousness of the situation.

Florida has levelled off in the sense of confirmed positive cases per day.

The question, then, is why... Are the number of infected people still increasing exponentially but can't get tested? Or, did enough people in Florida change their behavior two weeks ago that the spread has slowed? Or maybe it is a combination of both...

Even holding at the current cases/day, Florida's at ICU capacity, but the number of patients should increase dramatically in the next 2-3 weeks. To get through this, the state needs massive outside resources. And, there will be a lot of dead Floridians in the near future. Interestingly, it sounds like the state government is playing games with death reporting and dramatically undercounting.

If it increases exponentially, this will be epic.