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08-29-2020, 12:00 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2020
Location: Breda, the Netherlands
Posts: 13
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Engine: Diesel 6L V8
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Doorlock installing?
Hello just bought a Blue Bird mini bird from 2001. There are no locks on the front flipping doors and back emergency door!
Any tips or suggestions how to install a nice lock
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08-29-2020, 12:58 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2015
Posts: 3,856
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas Built Bus
Chassis: Freightliner FS65
Engine: Caterpillar 3126E Diesel
Rated Cap: 71 Passenger- 30,000 lbs.
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Lots of folks have done it a variety of ways. Do a search on the site for "door lock" and see what comes up.
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08-29-2020, 06:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,992
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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I dealt with the security of my emergency exit doors by cutting off the outside handles and riveting sheet steel over the openings. The doors still open, but there's no reason for me to be able to open them from the outside since I'm not using them as entrances.
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08-29-2020, 06:49 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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we installed deadbolts on the front and back original doors so i could unlock and open from inside or out. i did not like the idea of being inside and having a emergency without a exit. also any hasp you buy will peel right open and bang around while driving. pm me for pics
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08-29-2020, 06:50 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I dealt with the security of my emergency exit doors by cutting off the outside handles and riveting sheet steel over the openings. The doors still open, but there's no reason for me to be able to open them from the outside since I'm not using them as entrances.
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then might i ask how do you get into the front?
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08-29-2020, 08:52 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,992
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
then might i ask how do you get into the front?
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I still have my original bus doors with a padlock hasp on them. Right now I just open them by grabbing the hasp, but eventually I'll attach a handle of some sort.
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08-29-2020, 09:55 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 400
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Quote:
Originally Posted by StudioCoot2020
Hello just bought a Blue Bird mini bird from 2001. There are no locks on the front flipping doors and back emergency door!
Any tips or suggestions how to install a nice lock
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I have seen some very nice solutions on here before.
If you google "school bus front door lock skoolie.net"- you can find some of them.
https://www.google.com/search?q=scho...w=1408&bih=637
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08-29-2020, 11:43 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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heres how we did it
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08-29-2020, 11:45 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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inside view
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08-29-2020, 11:47 AM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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you can also get them keyed alike
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08-29-2020, 02:00 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Nice, easy install on the back door.
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08-29-2020, 04:03 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2006
Location: mid Mo.
Posts: 862
Year: 1976
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: F33695
Engine: 427 chevy converted to 466
Rated Cap: 84
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rear door lock
pretty simple just block the bolt from coming over door can't open, slide lock button over to keep unblocked. Did have to shorten the handle a little to clear key.
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08-29-2020, 07:03 PM
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#13
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Mar 2017
Location: arkensas
Posts: 1,071
Year: 1997
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: chevy
Engine: 3116 catapillar
Rated Cap: 71 now 2 humans 1 cat
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so here is 3 different ways to have access from in or out. i think all 3 are good its up to you what is easiest for you
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08-30-2020, 09:18 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2017
Location: Colorado
Posts: 400
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I put a hockey puck lock on my backdoor. I close the front all the way and leave thru the back.
My bus is way out in the country so I don't lock it often.
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09-02-2020, 05:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by sportyrick
pretty simple just block the bolt from coming over door can't open, slide lock button over to keep unblocked. Did have to shorten the handle a little to clear key. Attachment 48463
Attachment 48464
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Whats to stop a crook from smashing your glass and reaching in and turning the knob. The lock needs to be keyed on both sides anytime there is glass close by.
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09-02-2020, 05:45 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
Nice, easy install on the back door.
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Whats to stop a crook from smashing your glass and reaching in and turning the knob. The lock needs to be keyed on both sides anytime there is glass close by.
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09-02-2020, 05:46 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by mmoore6856
inside view
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Whats to stop a crook from smashing your glass and reaching in and turning the knob. The lock needs to be keyed on both sides anytime there is glass close by.
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09-02-2020, 06:19 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2018
Location: Central Alabama
Posts: 541
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC/2000
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 12-valve
Rated Cap: 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by kidharris
Whats to stop a crook from smashing your glass and reaching in and turning the knob. The lock needs to be keyed on both sides anytime there is glass close by.
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I understand your concern but what's to stop a crook from smashing your windshield and climbing in. If I need to get out in a hurry from a dead sleep, I would want a thumb lock over trying to find a key.
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09-02-2020, 07:22 PM
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#19
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2006
Location: mid Mo.
Posts: 862
Year: 1976
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: F33695
Engine: 427 chevy converted to 466
Rated Cap: 84
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I second that notion; also they would have to climb up and look in a window to see just how it works so they would need a ladder for that, if it's night time then I have the upper hand on that battle, they can't see it. I believe they would just move to the front door or another easier prey.
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09-02-2020, 07:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2018
Location: Golden Valley AZ
Posts: 1,036
Year: 1993
Chassis: ThomasBuilt 30'
Engine: need someone to tell me
Rated Cap: me + 1
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BamaBus
I understand your concern but what's to stop a crook from smashing your windshield and climbing in. If I need to get out in a hurry from a dead sleep, I would want a thumb lock over trying to find a key.
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Well, I guess if a crook is willing to make that kinda noise/scene and is willing to climb thru that much broken glass, not much is going to deter them.
As far as " need to get out in a hurry from a dead sleep", I guess you can smash the windshield. LOL
Seriously, you could replace the glass with polycarbonate (see thru) or steel. That door is not secure. A grade schooler wouldn't have much of a problem with it. If a crook wants in while you are sleeping, you won't have to worry about a key because the door will already be open. But when you are not there the door would be more secure.
If you are that worried about getting out (fire?) you should have a key stashed and practice your emergency exits. I probably wouldn't lock it while driving either.
I don't live in the city so I don't usually lock my door at night. If you are aware that the door is not secure and are happy with it, fine. You may notice that you are not the only one that has a knob operated lock in a door with windows.
My post was to inform/point out to the OP and other readers that the knob type locks are not secure when located next to a window.
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