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Old 07-20-2020, 01:52 PM   #1
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Driver's window - advice needed

Hi All,
I need some help with my driver's side window.

Background: the driver's window leaked like a sieve, so I removed it, cleaned it and the frame, added new butyl tape and seam sealer, and reinstalled the window with more seam sealer. It still leaked something awful. I figured the window gaskets were bad; I accidentally broke the two windows and screwed up the frame removing the window the 2nd time; it's not repairable.

I called everybody and their brother around the US and cannot find a replacement window (I have a 1992 Navistar DTA360, Carpenter SB 2508 chassis).

I figured I'd install sheet metal and an RV window, which I purchased. My concern is that the RV window is tinted and just doesn't provide as much visibility as the original window. Plus I'm concerned the tint may be a hindrance to night driving visibility.

Here's the question: Would it be possible to install a different make bus window into the sheet metal frame? If you think so, how?

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Old 07-20-2020, 04:50 PM   #2
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Here's the question: Would it be possible to install a different make bus window into the sheet metal frame? If you think so, how?
When I skinned over my original door, I bolted in tube stock above and below, turned a 'standard' window sideways, removed the latches, and screwed it in. Then skinned around the perimeter.

Works as well or better than my driver's slider.
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Old 07-20-2020, 05:25 PM   #3
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Old 07-20-2020, 06:32 PM   #4
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Looks cool. What did you use to fill the side blanks?
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Old 07-20-2020, 07:59 PM   #5
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I have already looked for a carpenter window.. carpenter has gone out of business a long time ago.. it appears an 'IC' driver window can be made to fit a high headroom carpenter bus.. a Wayne window (just as hard to find) was a drop in replacement on a carpenter as well.. school bus junkyard will be your best bet. a Thomas High headroom bus like an HDX is a possibility as it looks similar.. I sort of repaired my driver window so I havent gone on a mission to find another one.. I do know of a good one if your bus is a low headroom.. some friends are parting out a low headroom mid-90s Richmond-built carpenter..
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Looks cool. What did you use to fill the side blanks?
I skinned the opening with one of the interior ceiling panels I removed.

I went this route because I, too, called everybody and their brother AND their sister trying to find a driver's slider window, with no luck.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:02 PM   #7
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HI Christopher,
I'm not sure what you mean by "low headroom". The window opening is 28 3/4" tall x 32" wide.
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Old 07-20-2020, 09:09 PM   #8
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Hi Cadillackid,
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I do know of a good one if your bus is a low headroom.. some friends are parting out a low headroom mid-90s Richmond-built carpenter..
I'm VERY interested. Thanks!
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high headroom vs low headroom has different heights for the windows, yours is a high headroom window opening, same as mine.


the bus being parted out is a low headroom meaning the driver window is a different size..
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high headroom vs low headroom has different heights for the windows, yours is a high headroom window opening, same as mine.


the bus being parted out is a low headroom meaning the driver window is a different size..
U sure about that Chris? I'm pretty sure on at least Thomas buses they only used one size driver window.
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Old 07-21-2020, 09:26 AM   #11
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Bluebird conventionals used one, carpenter and IC used 2, Thomas used 1 on conventional ..

The busses we are talking about here are carpenters
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Bluebird conventionals used one, carpenter and IC used 2, Thomas used 1 on conventional ..

The busses we are talking about here are carpenters
10-4. Just was wondering.
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Old 07-21-2020, 10:32 AM   #13
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Thanks for checking Chris. Guess I'll go the - skin & RV window route.

I really appreciate all your feedback!
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