Earth day and consumption

[HolyBus]

This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface. Remember Arbor Day, Earth Day, etc.? Well now there is Ecological Debt Day, or Earth Overshoot Day. Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year. It came and went August 13.
It got me to thinking. My take on buying and moving into a bus may be a good thing. A lot of what we (wife and I) are using is recycled or reclaimed. What we plan to use for energy and what we produce for waste (from fuel consumption to produce the energy used) will be less (smaller footprint).
Maybe we are having an affect on others by showing that it is possible to live on less. Will we turn around the me generation of consumers who are used to disposable goods? I doubt it but maybe a few people will stop and think.
Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.

[Scooternj]

Originally Posted by HolyBus

Or maybe I just took the wrong meds this morning.

Or not enough coffee?

Think about it also this way: by rescuing a bus, you're also lessening the energy/waste footprint that it costs to recycle the bus. The energy requirement to cut it up, compact it, transport, and melt it back down into its component metals. You're also lessening the chances of fluid leaks getting into the groundwater while it's sitting at the scrapyard waiting to get cut up. And, since they're not in-service, hauling kids around, but used infrequently, the carbon footprint of the bus itself is also reduced.

[bubb, the real one]

"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."

The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.

[jazty]

Originally Posted by bubb, the real one

"Its the day that comes when we use more resources than the earth can renew in one year."

The above statement is not accurate, misstating facts to lead the reader down a certain path is in itself a form of political discussion.

Both of your comments can be safely ignored since neither have citations from credible sources.

[HolyBus]

Earth Overshoot Day 2015: What Happens When We Use More Than The Planet Can Renew?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecological_footprint - Read "implications at the bottom of the page.

https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/commen...ventor_of_the/ - From the one who created the measure. Read it before commenting.

Earth overshoots its mark | News | Environment | M&G

Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is. Every time I read something here, I put as much weight on it as anything else. My comment above in the first post, "This thread is not meant to be political. It is just memories and thoughts coming to surface." meant that you are not expected to take it as preachings and certainly not throw stones.
I am happy someone here does not believe my comment was accurate. Maybe it wasn't but it is what is being posted in several places and so I included links. Some don't believe that every roof should be raised (or whatever). It doesn't mean that we should flag the thread or tell others to ignore the comment because no "citations from credible sources" are included. I pass the pills and coffee. Sorry.

[EastCoastCB]

Earth Day- This unfortunately conjures images in my head of long lines of drunk kids waiting to buy another ten dollar beer or five dollar water while the latest pop drivel drones along in the background.

[jazty]

Originally Posted by HolyBus

Comments can always be ignored. That is a choice we make when we climb on the internet. Nowhere does it say that every post must include citings from "credible" sources whatever that is.

When we're talking about electrical, mechanical, fuel, etc we can easily weigh opinions based on our own experiences and the merits of the person offering the opinion as well as common sense.

When we're talking about science (which often has a political spin) nobody should take any one individual's opinion blindly. Be convincing. This means having credible people backing you; as in people who study the field and can be considered "professionals". Science is big. Individually we are small. For the majority of the scientific field you cannot rely on personal opinion. None of us have lived long enough to anecdotally know what's going on in this universe.

[bansil]

Interesting

I still enjoyed my 350Hp on my 45 mile drive to work today

[nat_ster]

And I went and dug out seven cherry tree's, stump and all, around 8 inches in diameter, that were standing dead to build a sweet hardwood table from.

I'm waiting to post the pics till winter like I always do.

Happy earth day all you planet parasites.

Nat

[bansil]

I also recycled a bunch of old steel drums this weekend...still not done with project



a little closer





why would I be welding drums together and filling with concrete



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still need to paint and install swinging bridge and teeter totter

I will post a build thread for backyard play ground later if folks want

[dond]

Vaseline and goats?

Not going there..................

[HolyBus]

That is really kewl!! I used to take care of the goats at a petting farm in the disney campground many years ago before it burned down. Those goats used to jump the fence and roam the grounds all the time. Fun days spent rounding them up. Mmm curried goat - best I ever had was in Jamaica back in 74.

[bansil]

Originally Posted by dond

Vaseline and goats?

Not going there..................

Aindreas had "cocci" and I had to monitor temps...they are called kids for a reason, just glad we didn't get bottle babies...yet...

you can see his running nose and he had a temp of 103.8

[nat_ster]

Always game for more pics.

Good on you for building them a play ground.

Nat

[crazycal]

Originally Posted by dond

Vaseline and goats?

Not going there..................

[crazycal]

Originally Posted by nat_ster

Always game for more pics.

Good on you for building them a play ground.

Nat

Yeah, definitely better than the hood of your car.

[crazycal]

Originally Posted by bansil

I also recycled a bunch of old steel drums this weekend...still not done with project



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why would I be welding drums together and filling with concrete



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still need to paint and install swinging bridge and teeter totter

I will post a build thread for backyard play ground later if folks want

Are those Tennessee Fainting Goats?

[bansil]

No fainting goats, just 2 pygmy and a Nubian/Nigerian mix (supposedly)

[M1031A1]

I'm hiding this thread from my wife. She goes over furry bodies. Cats, dogs, goats, you name it, if it has a furry body she wants to spoil it......

[mrblah]

For those feeling concerned about earth's overshoot (more accurately OUR overshoot) i strongly suggestions this book:

Limits to growth : the 30 years update.

http://www.amazon.ca/Limits-Growth-T.../dp/193149858X

It the second book that scholars from MIT published with estimated limits on or exponential growth as a race on earth.

It's a bit dry but they make a decent (the best imo) job of explaining why it can't go on like this for very long...