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04-01-2019, 05:30 PM
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#701
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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04-01-2019, 05:54 PM
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#702
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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wow that looks like it will make a great work truck!! Love it!!. and I was always tinkering with something on these trucks whe ni had em.. but they really never stopped totally...
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04-01-2019, 06:51 PM
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#703
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2018
Location: south east BC, close to the Canadian/US border
Posts: 2,265
Year: 1975
Coachwork: Chevy
Chassis: 8 window
Engine: 454 LS7
Rated Cap: 24,500
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Originally Posted by cadillackid
wow that looks like it will make a great work truck!! Love it!!. and I was always tinkering with something on these trucks whe ni had em.. but they really never stopped totally...
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I had an 88 GMC, ordered the way I wanted it from the factory - loved that truck
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04-02-2019, 08:08 AM
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#704
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Sucker starts right up and runs pretty good. It surges a bit when cold but that's likely due to the TBI being very old and crude. Looks like the smog stuff was deleted, crudely but its gone. Looks like the engine is newer than the truck so I believe its a rebuild or crate engine. I can't make out what it says on the intake manifold but it looks newer and aftermarket. Newer battery, albeit a small one. Newer battery isolator but no 2nd battery. It must have been removed when they took off the emergency equipment.
Non-mechanical plans are to slowly get the body semi-restored. The doors need the most attention. Its all there and working but the scraper seals and rubber parts all need to be replaced. The dash and bench seat are in ok shape. I'll probably go with buckets in the future since its a manual trans. Makes ergonomics a little easier when trying to adjust the seat to reach the pedals for my wife.
Hoping to get to the tag office today and get it all legal.
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04-02-2019, 09:10 AM
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#705
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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deleting the emissions is probably why the TBI isnt happy.. they never liked having sensors deleted.. though they would never totally shut down.. always seemed like the EGR sensor was an issue on these.. although it was pretty easy to fake it with a resistor and make it happy..
funny thing is the first "digital dash" build I ever did was for reading data out of the ALDL connector under the dash and displayed it on an old think-pad.. these and the eklectriconic carbs.. (thank god you dont have the E4ME carb setup!
TBI is easy... if it runs like crap cold, check the fuel pump pressure and the coolant temp sensor.. if it runs good cold but crap ewarmed up, the O2 sensor.
if it idles like crap, the EGR would get stuck open...
Bucket seats and center console from a K5 blazer or suburban bolt up real nice in these.. I put blazer seats in one of mine.
-Christopher
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04-02-2019, 09:26 AM
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#706
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
deleting the emissions is probably why the TBI isnt happy.. they never liked having sensors deleted.. though they would never totally shut down.. always seemed like the EGR sensor was an issue on these.. although it was pretty easy to fake it with a resistor and make it happy..
funny thing is the first "digital dash" build I ever did was for reading data out of the ALDL connector under the dash and displayed it on an old think-pad.. these and the eklectriconic carbs.. (thank god you dont have the E4ME carb setup!
TBI is easy... if it runs like crap cold, check the fuel pump pressure and the coolant temp sensor.. if it runs good cold but crap ewarmed up, the O2 sensor.
if it idles like crap, the EGR would get stuck open...
Bucket seats and center console from a K5 blazer or suburban bolt up real nice in these.. I put blazer seats in one of mine.
-Christopher
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Cool, good to know!
It idles fine, but it sorta hunts RPM's and doesn't really set in to a smooth, consistent idle. Its not running rough or anything, though.
The transmission makes some slight noise in neutral and first. Probably a bearing. Shifts fine but will need to be addressed. Could this be the transfer case? I need to get under there and listen more to find out.
I'm going to get a solid plan together for this truck. Its still so new to me.
Good thing I've got some redneck dna. It was in 4 low on the trailer since the parking brake doesn't work too well. It always takes a little effort to get most 4x4's out of 4-by. After unlocking the hubs and shifting the t-case I knew to back it up a few feet. That did the trick.
Looks like there's not a catalytic converter on there, but like I said I need to get under there. Its been raining since the truck got here. The exhaust is a shorty with a turbo muffler. Sounds pleasing but I'll need to upgrade/fix it eventually.
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04-02-2019, 11:03 AM
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#707
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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the tailpipes on these always rotted or got scraped// i never liked the OEM routing.. alot of them ended up wioth dual shorty mufflers and no tails.. I had tails that came out under the bumper... duals on the V8 and the other had the inline 6 that mightve had enough power to move a golf cart.. I knew why that truck had a granny gear..
first was down and to the left... that always was a noisy Gear-y sounding transmission. clutch was touchy on it too.. but it didnt break...
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04-02-2019, 11:19 AM
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#708
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
the tailpipes on these always rotted or got scraped// i never liked the OEM routing.. alot of them ended up wioth dual shorty mufflers and no tails.. I had tails that came out under the bumper... duals on the V8 and the other had the inline 6 that mightve had enough power to move a golf cart.. I knew why that truck had a granny gear..
first was down and to the left... that always was a noisy Gear-y sounding transmission. clutch was touchy on it too.. but it didnt break...
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Ah, thanks man. That makes me feel better. I wasn't gonna worry too much about any noises till I can get a more thorough road test on it.
Granny gear sure is LOW!
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04-02-2019, 01:10 PM
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#709
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I need to find someone for shipping stuff in the future. Why are decent shippers so damned hard to find?
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They go to the same vocational school as general contractors. It's not easy coming up with 57 excuses for why $hit isn't getting done. If it was easy, everyone would do it.
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04-02-2019, 01:19 PM
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#710
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
the winch controller has some iffy connections, the selector is a bit finicky, One of the rear tail lights sometimes flickers a bit.
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If those are your biggest problems when you get it, you scored a good one.
Buddy of mine did a forestry truck out of OR. Great truck but had the same issues with the shipper.
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04-02-2019, 05:41 PM
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#711
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Got a light blue "antique" tag for the truck today. Drove it all around town. Its a crude, clunky machine... So its a WIN! Seems to be running better the more I drive it.
Fluids will be changed in the next couple days.
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04-02-2019, 08:05 PM
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#712
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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do antique tags in Florida come with restrictions?
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04-02-2019, 09:28 PM
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#713
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Kubla
do antique tags in Florida come with restrictions?
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No it just saves you a TON of money on registration and plate.
Saved a ton on bus insurance switching to Allstate today AND I also switched the title to MH while I was at the tag office. As always- Switching the title simply requires a written statement that it has plumbing of some sort and 110v of some sort. No actual verification of that, you just have to say it. If FREE to change the title over, too.
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04-02-2019, 10:02 PM
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#714
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
No it just saves you a TON of money on registration and plate.
Saved a ton on bus insurance switching to Allstate today AND I also switched the title to MH while I was at the tag office. As always- Switching the title simply requires a written statement that it has plumbing of some sort and 110v of some sort. No actual verification of that, you just have to say it. If FREE to change the title over, too.
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This sucks. Ga. just passed a rule that all "classic" cars will pay a $100 registration fee. They decide what is classic. So that clapped out rust bucket POS Chevelle will cost you $100 instead of the $20 it would be for a 67 Chevrolet
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04-03-2019, 07:25 AM
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#715
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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I've gotta mow a few dozen small yards today. Gona take old red. Won't be pulling the trailer with it, at least not today. The route truck is already over there today so I just have to drive the chevy over there.
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04-03-2019, 07:34 AM
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#716
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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in Ohio they technically want antique vehicles to be driving to or from a "show event".. however it seems unless there are lots of car shows all winter long and in the rain.. they dont care what you put an antique plate on
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04-03-2019, 07:58 AM
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#717
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
No it just saves you a TON of money on registration and plate.
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You don't know what a ton of money on registration and plate is. While I suspect that it has gone up (more than inflation) since '99, it still isn't SC or MD.
SC has the highest property taxes on vehicles in the US. A 1 yr old car valued at $17k will cost you $750 in property taxes. The quickest way to make them stop that BS would be to require the state to write you a check for what they appraise your car at.
MD doesn't have a property tax on vehicles. They do have a safety inspection that goes to private shops. Once a month at the very least there's a car fire in the traffic report. The safety inspection is once and done. Your 2000 Civic isn't any safer than any other car but it passed a safety inspection 18 yrs ago when you bought it. Never mind that you haven't changed the brake pads since then. It only has to pass if someone else comes along and buys it. At 20 yrs you can get a historic which gets you out of the safety inspection and the every other yr emissions testing but you can't drive it more than 5,000 a yr and they just changed it so you can't drive it to/from work. That 1999 Civic is one hell of a historic car!!! No one checks mileage not to/from tho.
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04-03-2019, 08:10 AM
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#718
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,010
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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lol then there is central ohio... if it has wheels on it and the VIN matches you can drive it here.. you mail in or renew online your registration renewals and slap on the sticker.. no inspections necessary... its scary the stuff people drive here...
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04-03-2019, 08:42 AM
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#719
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
lol then there is central ohio... if it has wheels on it and the VIN matches you can drive it here.. you mail in or renew online your registration renewals and slap on the sticker.. no inspections necessary... its scary the stuff people drive here...
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Slightly related note and I find kinda interesting: PA loves them some taxes and inspections but they got rid of the stickers. It's weird seeing tags with no stickers on them.
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04-03-2019, 09:46 AM
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#720
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Oct 2017
Location: E Central Tejas
Posts: 2,089
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: IH 3800, 8 window
Engine: T444E w/ Spicer 5-speed MT
Rated Cap: I prefer broad-brims hats
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hmmmm... I think I'm on the wrong HMO!
Not to mention in the wrong (unaltered) state...
Congrats on Ol' Red, she looks & sounds to be a beaut! [emoji106]
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
lol that's only one course. I've got Dr's orders to consume 500 mg per day of THC and as much CBD as I want.
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