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09-03-2019, 02:25 PM
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#841
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Looking at El Camino's.
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SS with the 350 I hope. I can tell you one with a 302 is much faster than a Duster with a 225 slant 6. HS buddy and I "raced' home from the grocery store at 3am. I topped out at 102mph, he still had pedal left. That Duster was woefully under powered but you couldn't kill the slant 6.
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09-03-2019, 03:02 PM
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#842
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
SS with the 350 I hope. I can tell you one with a 302 is much faster than a Duster with a 225 slant 6. HS buddy and I "raced' home from the grocery store at 3am. I topped out at 102mph, he still had pedal left. That Duster was woefully under powered but you couldn't kill the slant 6.
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Found a 2 owner one that's a garage queen. 1984 with AC and cruise. But it does have a six cylinder.
A 350 basic longblock is only $1700 though.
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09-03-2019, 03:07 PM
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#843
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
Found a 2 owner one that's a garage queen. 1984 with AC and cruise. But it does have a six cylinder.
A 350 basic longblock is only $1700 though. 
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Correction 305. The 302 is a Ford motor. And 351??? Chris could tell you. I didn't know a 6 was even an option. Tooling around town a 6 would be fine but you've already you don't care about mpg.
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09-03-2019, 03:18 PM
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#844
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Correction 305. The 302 is a Ford motor. And 351??? Chris could tell you. I didn't know a 6 was even an option. Tooling around town a 6 would be fine but you've already you don't care about mpg.
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We're mostly looking for fun older cars. Mpg's don't matter. K5 Blazers and El Caminos are top of the list but we would settle for a nice cop car if one pops up.
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09-03-2019, 03:26 PM
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#845
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
We're mostly looking for fun older cars. Mpg's don't matter. K5 Blazers and El Caminos are top of the list but we would settle for a nice cop car if one pops up.
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I dunno if I'd count those three as fun but I gotcha.
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09-03-2019, 04:08 PM
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#846
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posts: 1,001
Year: 2000
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: International
Engine: TE 444
Rated Cap: 12
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Get a car with A.C. this time
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09-03-2019, 04:39 PM
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#847
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,053
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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6s were an option in all G body cars. Early versions it was a 3.8 Chevy and later was the 4.3, 305 was the only V8 offering since I believe 81 or 82 except for the Mexican Montes Carlo which came as a 350 4 speed stick. Auto was optional on the MX.
Even the SS in 81+ was a 305 albeit a slightly souped up version .
V8s were electronic carb. 4.3 V6 were TBI.
Autos in V6 up through 85 were th200C(lockup 3 speed ).
V8 through 85 were th350 non lock no OD.
86-88 got th200-4R lockup 4 speed OD.
All this info pertains to 81 and up cars. 78-80 were different cars in style and drivetrains..
they were considered G body but had different dash seats and engine options
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09-03-2019, 04:40 PM
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#848
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,053
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Over 90% of the 81 plus elkys were AC cars..
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09-03-2019, 05:23 PM
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#849
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,529
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
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Maybe find an mercedes240D manual. Some come with the largest sunroof ever incase you want to haul 12 ft whatever..
About 22mpg, never any speeding tickets, have AC. Easy to tow and very very reliable. Pretty cheap unless it is a station wagon
How are your Dorian weather preparations.
Good luck Johan
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09-03-2019, 09:47 PM
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#850
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblack5
Maybe find an mercedes240D manual. Some come with the largest sunroof ever incase you want to haul 12 ft whatever..
About 22mpg, never any speeding tickets, have AC. Easy to tow and very very reliable. Pretty cheap unless it is a station wagon
How are your Dorian weather preparations.
Good luck Johan
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IDK if we can afford even a highly used mercedes. My friends dad still owns an 87 he bought new. He got a speeding ticket in it going 120.
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09-03-2019, 09:48 PM
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#851
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
6s were an option in all G body cars. Early versions it was a 3.8 Chevy and later was the 4.3, 305 was the only V8 offering since I believe 81 or 82 except for the Mexican Montes Carlo which came as a 350 4 speed stick. Auto was optional on the MX.
Even the SS in 81+ was a 305 albeit a slightly souped up version .
V8s were electronic carb. 4.3 V6 were TBI.
Autos in V6 up through 85 were th200C(lockup 3 speed ).
V8 through 85 were th350 non lock no OD.
86-88 got th200-4R lockup 4 speed OD.
All this info pertains to 81 and up cars. 78-80 were different cars in style and drivetrains..
they were considered G body but had different dash seats and engine options
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Yeah the one we're going to look at this week is a 4.3 TBI with 3 speed th200. Very clean, low miles.
Also on the list to look at are a Jeep Wrangler, a Miata, and a JDM grey market 1994 Honda Kei Van.
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09-04-2019, 10:07 AM
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#852
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
6s were an option in all G body cars. Early versions it was a 3.8 Chevy and later was the 4.3, 305 was the only V8 offering since I believe 81 or 82 except for the Mexican Montes Carlo which came as a 350 4 speed stick. Auto was optional on the MX.
Even the SS in 81+ was a 305 albeit a slightly souped up version .
V8s were electronic carb. 4.3 V6 were TBI.
Autos in V6 up through 85 were th200C(lockup 3 speed ).
V8 through 85 were th350 non lock no OD.
86-88 got th200-4R lockup 4 speed OD.
All this info pertains to 81 and up cars. 78-80 were different cars in style and drivetrains..
they were considered G body but had different dash seats and engine options
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I dunno what HS kid had. Would have been older than '86 as that is the year I started driving solo and his car wasn't new. It was auto and 305 tho. My Duster was a '72 but his was newer. I just don't remember how much newer.
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09-04-2019, 11:03 AM
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#853
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Weeki Wachee, FL
Posts: 3,056
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000 FE
Engine: Cummins 5.9
Rated Cap: 72
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The diesel mercedes are about as fast as my 5.9 tc2000... The pre-turbo ones aren't even that fast!
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09-04-2019, 11:10 AM
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#854
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,053
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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I didn’t have my G body cars new.. they were resto mods or Resto when I built them.
I had an 81 regal with a 4.3 V8, an 81 Malibu wagon 305 , an 86 monte LS with a 4.3 6, and a 85 elky with a 305... so yeah I’ve had a few G bodies.
Drivetrain swaps happened on some.. what I listed was how they came which from what I can tell were their factory engines.
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09-04-2019, 11:12 AM
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#855
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 20,053
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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305 motors were always available. Lower down in my post I listed th350 trannies as the V8 trans. I don’t remember ever seeing a th400 trans in a 1981 plus G body
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09-04-2019, 11:15 AM
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#856
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
and a JDM grey market 1994 Honda Kei Van.

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From "fun" to weird in 3.7 seconds!!
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09-04-2019, 11:16 AM
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#857
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by brokedown
The diesel mercedes are about as fast as my 5.9 tc2000... The pre-turbo ones aren't even that fast!
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But they will last twice as long as your TC2000.
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09-04-2019, 11:18 AM
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#858
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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I had a '92 or was it a '93 Caprice with the 305 in it. That car was HEAVY. Definitely needed a 350 and a tune.
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09-04-2019, 12:40 PM
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#859
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,830
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
I didn’t have my G body cars new.. they were resto mods or Resto when I built them.
I had an 81 regal with a 4.3 V8, an 81 Malibu wagon 305 , an 86 monte LS with a 4.3 6, and a 85 elky with a 305... so yeah I’ve had a few G bodies.
Drivetrain swaps happened on some.. what I listed was how they came which from what I can tell were their factory engines.
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Looking at a nice 83 with a 350 swapped into it Friday.
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09-04-2019, 01:16 PM
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#860
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
Correction 305. The 302 is a Ford motor. And 351??? Chris could tell you. I didn't know a 6 was even an option. Tooling around town a 6 would be fine but you've already you don't care about mpg.
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The 67-69 Camaro Z28 had a 302ci option. It was an awesome motor.
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