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10-07-2021, 06:29 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Originally Posted by john61ct
Any based on GM 8.1L?
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ive seen quite a few with the 454, they were slow but reliable.. just whether you could find filling stations in an area or not..
the schools that ran those GMCs had their own filling pumps for their fleet..
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10-07-2021, 06:31 AM
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#22
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,835
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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that roush injection system is cool in its concepts. you can run copius amounts of ignition timing with the liquid injection, as long as you have the 6.8 new enough to not spit spark plugs at you then its pretty cool setup.
I just like being able to drive my bus anywhere and not be concerned about where my next fuel stop is.. alas why i dont even travel to way-out type places like wyoming or montana etc..
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10-07-2021, 07:52 AM
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Almost There
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Davis ca
Posts: 96
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Bluebird 35 shuttle cng
Engine: John deere
Rated Cap: 36
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I have a gasoline 6.8 and it is very thirsty. Even if propane is cheaper than gasoline they will both be more expensive than diesel to fuel. I think the decision should be based on how many miles do you expect to drive each year. The fewer the miles the less difference the operating cost makes. Then how often will you be in unfamiliar areas where you might need to take extra time to find a place to fuel at a time when places might be closed for the day. Next do you plan to ever sell it? Skoolies never get their whole investment back but selling one with the added limitation of propane only might make it harder to find a buyer. I think the ideal case for a propane bus is where it is a minimal conversion used locally like for tailgating or minimal camping where the initial cost and condition makes it attractive compared to a diesel bus. What is your expected usage?
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10-07-2021, 09:03 AM
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#24
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2021
Location: Baja often, Oregon frequently
Posts: 432
Year: 1996
Coachwork: Our hot little grubbies...
Chassis: Ford CF8000 ExpeditionVehicle
Engine: Cummins 505ci mechanical
Rated Cap: Five Heelers
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How often do my propane twenty-pounder/five-gallon bottles require certification?
I think re-cert is required every dozen years.
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How often do LPG-powered vehicle tanks need inspection... and who is certified to issue a cert?
I have no clue, I have zero-zero-zero inclination to investigate, so we stick with diesel.
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10-07-2021, 02:21 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Recert is anywhere between 5 and 12 years. Around here, once it's been recertified, it needs to be done every 5 years after that.
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10-07-2021, 02:48 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2014
Location: NM USA KD6WJG
Posts: 1,325
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE 40 FEET
Engine: Cummins 8.3
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10-07-2021, 06:03 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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Originally Posted by o1marc
Recert is anywhere between 5 and 12 years. Around here, once it's been recertified, it needs to be done every 5 years after that.
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If it's that important to recertify these tanks, you'd think the fed govt would set those parameters?
Never heard of this happening but if an incident with a tank happened in a state that requires 5 year inspections, but someone stopped by from a neighboring state with 10 year intervals and the tank failed, what would happen legally???
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10-07-2021, 06:25 PM
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#28
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Dec 2017
Location: Dawsonville, Ga.
Posts: 10,482
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Genesis
Chassis: International
Engine: DT466/3060
Rated Cap: 77
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Originally Posted by peteg59
If it's that important to recertify these tanks, you'd think the fed govt would set those parameters?
Never heard of this happening but if an incident with a tank happened in a state that requires 5 year inspections, but someone stopped by from a neighboring state with 10 year intervals and the tank failed, what would happen legally???
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The refillers are suppose to check expiration date of tank before filling it. Everywhere aroundhere does that inspection. The filling stations are Federally regulated by rules. They are not 10 year intervals. It's 12 from date of manufacture and 5 after that.
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10-07-2021, 06:35 PM
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#29
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Feb 2019
Location: New Hampshire
Posts: 1,349
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas 4 window w/lift
Chassis: G30~Chevy cutaway
Engine: 5.7/350 Chevy Vortec
Rated Cap: Just me and my "stuff"?
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Quote:
Originally Posted by o1marc
The refillers are suppose to check expiration date of tank before filling it. Everywhere aroundhere does that inspection. The filling stations are regulated by rules. They are not 10 year intervals. It's 12 from date of manufacture and 5 after that.
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Right, I get what you're saying about tanks in your state, but in mine it is 10 years.
Most people here chuck em after expired, as it's a royal pain to get an old tank re-certed in NH.
But what I was looking for in quoting you originally was what, if any, is the penalty for having an "expired" tank in a state with 5 yr. re-certs vs another state with 10 years interval IF god forbid something catastrophic happened on the 10 year tank in a 5 year state...
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10-07-2021, 06:46 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 2,775
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They just refuse to fill them.
The one and only thing the swap vendors are good for is taking your about to expire bottles and giving you a newer one.
That's for the stock 20# ones only of course, DOT regulated.
The permanently fixed bigger autogas tanks are ASME and legally never require inspection.
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