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12-22-2016, 04:55 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Houston Texas
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Is this feasable / road safe?
Hey guys saw this pic on pintrest. Is this road safe?
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12-22-2016, 04:56 PM
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Bus Nut
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Location: Kansas
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I wouldn't trust it, looks like a roll-over waiting to happen, and you'd never fit under any overpasses... If you didn't drive it anywhere it would prob be ok...
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12-22-2016, 04:58 PM
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New Member
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: Houston Texas
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That's what I was thinking but I wasn't sure figured I'd ask the folks with experience.
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12-22-2016, 06:07 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Stuff like that is what makes it so hard for us to get insurance and acceptance at rv parks.
Having said that, it looks like a nicely built hippie house. Deadheads have driven stuff like this around the country for decades.
I'm a deadhead, but I wouldn't drive it.
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12-22-2016, 06:09 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Sep 2016
Location: Chapel Hill, NC
Posts: 855
Year: 2002
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That's too tall to be legal without an oversize load permit.
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12-22-2016, 07:12 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Maybe it is a "pop up" and slides back down for driving????
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12-22-2016, 08:46 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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Does it drive? I would think it would blow the tires on the first bump.
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12-22-2016, 08:54 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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12-22-2016, 09:03 PM
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Bus Nut
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If they did build that as a pop-up, it might possibly get down to 13'6" without blocking the driver's window.
But it looks like it's just framed up. And even if it were built to drop, it's still over 8'6" wide. If the bus is 8' wide, the framing puts it at 8'6", and then those roof overhangs are at least 10' wide.
It does look like they had intentions of going down the road with it though. They framed around the taillights so they'd still be exposed.
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12-22-2016, 09:54 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2010
Location: Farmington Hills, Mi (Detroit area)
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Looks to me like the outer bus walls are framed out for insulation and more plywood siding. Neat idea for a movable tiny house but I wouldn't want to drive it much.
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12-22-2016, 10:01 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
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A perfect idea for a stationary home on a piece of land, maybe move from one corner to the other for a change of scenerey. lol
I'd do something like that. looks great and wow what a neat treat it would be to have a upper level with a neat ladder. A childhood dream.
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12-23-2016, 10:00 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Pensacola and Crystal River, FL
Posts: 647
Year: 1998
Coachwork: AmTran International
Chassis: 3800
Engine: Navistar 7.6L
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It could also be possible that they built like that on purpose.
So if you want a "tiny home" and not pay property taxes, you build this instead and only pay yearly plate fee and insurance.
As long as they maintain the street legal requirements and can claim to get an overheight permit for travels.
Doing so also avoids having to deal with building permits.
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12-23-2016, 11:52 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Danglebury, Tejas
Posts: 310
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466E
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My thinking as well. Its movable, so its not subject to property taxes in many places. Move it 10 feet every few weeks and its even convincing! No license or insurance needed until it hits a public road.
Creative thinking!
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12-23-2016, 04:53 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
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Year: 1992
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Many communities/jurisdictions prohibit storage of unlicensed vehicles in public view, including on your own land. It's a Public Eyesore thing. And it will not be licensed without insurance.
So you would have to build a solid plank fence as tall as the Thing. And you would never get a building permit for a 17 foot tall fence.
Some places you may be able to build skirting around it and call it a mobile home (as opposed to a motor home).
But to my mind, that Thing is not a bus conversion. It's portable building.
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12-23-2016, 08:47 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Richmond Virginia
Posts: 932
Year: 1984
Engine: 366 Big block Chevy! :) w/ Stick shift
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Yep, i have this parked on a private lot that is NOT visible from any public roads, and it must be registered with plates and insured.
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12-23-2016, 09:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: Danglebury, Tejas
Posts: 310
Year: 1999
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Chassis: IH 3800
Engine: Navistar DT466E
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Okay. I gotta ask, because I'm curious how other states do this. In Texas, if it aint hurtin' nuthin', aint nobodys bizness but mine.
Lets say I have a classic auto. Engine is out of it for rebuilding. Body is fine, paint is good. Not an eyesore. Parked in the side yard under a nice car cover. It can not run, hence it can not pass smog, hence it can not be registered or even insured as a motor vehicle. How the heck does THAT work?
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12-23-2016, 11:09 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
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IDK, but in Eustis FL, which isn't a particularly pretty town at all, my tagged, insured 1986 Ranger got me a code violation for being "an eyesore". I couldn't imagine what they'd do if my bus were here.
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12-23-2016, 11:45 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearlake, Northern California
Posts: 2,511
Year: 1992
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC-2000 Frt Eng, Tranny:MT643
Engine: 5,9 Cummins
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Decision of -- opinion of -- priorities of -- your local legislators; City Council, County Supes, whatnot ruling body.
Here in Clearlake we have a terrible problem with dilapidated properties, outright trash and junk, abandoned cars and burned-out RVs, boats that have not seen water in 20 years and for good reason, and so on.
Thru the years, the City Council has enacted ordinances to combat these problems.
And five part-time Council-members working full time day-jobs simply do not have the capacity to anticipate every possible contingency, such as your classic auto or my Bluesmobile -- which was cited some years ago before I made room for it inside.
So... any motor vehicle that is clearly not in use, is by definition an eyesore, if visible from any public location. Lack of current registration constitutes proof, and any police patrol or code enforcement employee can run the plate in seconds. No front plate? Violation, Sec. 5200 (a) CVC, Display of License Plates.
I'm in favor of preventing and abating eyesores. I volunteer several hours a week picking up junk and trash in public places and vacant lots.
A couple weeks ago I boarded up an abandoned building -- and painted over the graffiti. Vagrants have already broken in, leaving my freshly painted plywood dangling.
I keep a lot of Stuff myself, and every day I look at my place from the street and ask myself if I can tidy it up better.
When I bring home a new treasure, such as the clever folding trundle bed mechanism I scored yesterday, I place it in the Magic Triangle behind my house that is not visible from either street.
And my knee hurts, so I'm a little grumpy today.
(CVC = California Vehicle Code)
(My Bluesmobile is a PEDAL CAR.)
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12-24-2016, 12:52 AM
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Bus Nut
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Location: Music City USA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
IDK, but in Eustis FL, which isn't a particularly pretty town at all, my tagged, insured 1986 Ranger got me a code violation for being "an eyesore". I couldn't imagine what they'd do if my bus were here.
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Sounds like a town full of elitist pricks to me...... or at least those in power are.....
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12-24-2016, 12:58 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
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Engine: Cat 3126
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Quote:
Originally Posted by AlleyCat67
Sounds like a town full of elitist pricks to me...... or at least those in power are.....
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Yeah. Real estate developers run the town and have bought EVERY vacant property and are asking double the market price.
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