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Old 02-04-2017, 07:03 PM   #1
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Is this too much rust?

So we looked at our first school bus today and it was a great experience. The inside of the bus was extremely clean and looked well maintained.

The only thing that has us worried is the rust on the undercarriage.

Let me know what you guys think. Should we keep looking or seriously think about this one?

I was trying to identify the engine from the VIN number and came up with CUMMINS ISB can someone verify that?

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Model: BlueBird
Year: 2000
Mileage: 84K




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Old 02-04-2017, 07:21 PM   #2
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Looks typical from the 10 or so buses I've been under, and my '93 Suburban
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Old 02-04-2017, 07:36 PM   #3
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So we looked at our first school bus today and it was a great experience. The inside of the bus was extremely clean and looked well maintained.

The only thing that has us worried is the rust on the undercarriage.

Let me know what you guys think. Should we keep looking or seriously think about this one?

I was trying to identify the engine from the VIN number and came up with CUMMINS ISB can someone verify that?

Here are the stats:
Model: BlueBird
Year: 2000
Mileage: 84K




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I don't think it looks too bad. Mine is about the same if not worse.

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Old 02-04-2017, 08:19 PM   #4
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So we looked at our first school bus today and it was a great experience. The inside of the bus was extremely clean and looked well maintained.

The only thing that has us worried is the rust on the undercarriage.

Let me know what you guys think. Should we keep looking or seriously think about this one?

I was trying to identify the engine from the VIN number and came up with CUMMINS ISB can someone verify that?

Here are the stats:
Model: BlueBird
Year: 2000
Mileage: 84K




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Looks like surface rust. A trick I used when looking at jeeps (notorious for frame rot around here due to road salt) is bring a big flat head screwdriver... Give any suspicious spots a poke. Should be solid. If there is "give" or you go through... Run. Lol



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Old 02-04-2017, 08:24 PM   #5
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That rust doesn't look too terribly bad.

If it's a Cummins, it's definitely an ISB. Blue Bird never front mounted an 8.3 in the TC series, and the last year the 6BT was produced was 1998.
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Old 02-04-2017, 10:03 PM   #6
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Huh, I've seen very few TC1000s without wheelchair lifts.

Looks good for its age, and I like the low miles. There was a guy on Chicago craigslist asking $3K for a bus pretty much identical to this one except for the fact that it needed a new motor

Kinda sucks that it doesn't have air brakes but I could live with hydraulic brakes since it's a smaller chassis.
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Old 02-05-2017, 09:07 AM   #7
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Well after sleeping on it I really can't find any real reason not to pick this one up.

Didn't think I would fall for the first bus I met haha


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Old 02-05-2017, 09:33 AM   #8
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Well after sleeping on it I really can't find any real reason not to pick this one up.

Didn't think I would fall for the first bus I met haha


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I did, but it took me a year before the owner brought the price down to the range it should have been from the beginning!
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Old 02-05-2017, 02:07 PM   #9
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That is an honest video. Looks good to me. Any cleaner and they'd ask more $$$.
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Old 02-05-2017, 03:16 PM   #10
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Well after sleeping on it I really can't find any real reason not to pick this one up.

Didn't think I would fall for the first bus I met haha


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Old 02-05-2017, 04:09 PM   #11
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You're gonna have surface rust....


If it bugs ya too bad, get a garden sprayer with some diesel in it. No, I'm not advocating getting diesel on the ground... But it sure coats the metal, then you'll have dust & dirt settling on the diesel

(I did not do anything to the metal in these two pics)

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Old 02-06-2017, 07:37 AM   #12
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Well we've decided to make an offer hopefully we can work something out. If we get it I'll post a link to our build thread. Thanks to everyone who chimed in


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Old 02-06-2017, 08:58 AM   #13
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Good luck! Let us know what happens!
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Old 02-07-2017, 11:01 PM   #14
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yes, good luck! Keep us posted
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Old 02-08-2017, 11:03 AM   #15
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It's ours!!! We are so excited to get started and of course we will be posting regularly. I hope the skoolie forum is ready to answer our million questions as they come up haha


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It's ours!!! We are so excited to get started and of course we will be posting regularly. I hope the skoolie forum is ready to answer our million questions as they come up haha


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Old 02-08-2017, 11:30 AM   #17
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Well after sleeping on it I really can't find any real reason not to pick this one up.

Didn't think I would fall for the first bus I met haha

It's funny, I ended up buying the first one I found too. The funny part is I bought it after looking at other buses for about 4 months after I first found it. So, from my point of view, you just saved yourself a ton of time that I didn't. Haha

Congrats on the bus, I'm looking forward to seeing what you do with it!
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