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Old 12-02-2022, 03:27 PM   #1
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It's a shame

It's a shame that a dream ends up in a metal recycling yard. I was dropping of some pop cans and saw this. The metal recycling company said the owner drove it there. I believe they are selling the bus now.

Bus is at Georgetown Metal Recycling in Texas.
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Old 12-02-2022, 03:36 PM   #2
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I want to say that looks familiar from a few years ago. I don't remember if it was here or facebook, but I remember that raise job because of the sloped rear. I remember at the time the comments about it being too tall, and the owner being on a ranch in texas and clarifying it was going to be a stationary unit.
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Old 12-02-2022, 08:26 PM   #3
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I wonder how doing the roof raise like that would impact fuel mileage. Interesting concept.
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Old 12-03-2022, 06:57 AM   #4
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ive often wondered in general how much roof raises impact MPG.. its probably a tough question to answer as most people probably only drive the bus once to get it home and then raise the roof so theres no good data on MPG ahead of time other than a single trip..
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:30 PM   #5
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Thomas HDX. A little newer than my 2001. Looks like it might have A/C. I’d like to have those cargo doors.

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Old 12-07-2022, 04:39 PM   #6
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Too many busses wind up in similar situations for myriad of reasons, unfortunately.

For someone looking for a project where most of the hard work is done, this one could check off many boxes. Especially due to its location out of the nation's rust belt...?
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Old 12-07-2022, 04:57 PM   #7
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I wonder how doing the roof raise like that would impact fuel mileage. Interesting concept.
Here's my scientific answer for change in MPG based on roof raise height:

0'-1" to 1'-6" roof raise: no change.
1'-7" to 3'-0" raise: current mileage x .98, primarily because you're periodically idling the bus while answering questions about your exceptionally high roof raise.
Above 3'-0": Number of miles to the nearest overpass divided by the current gas tank contents, in gallons.

I'm basing the first number on the fact that my 10 MPG shuttle bus still is expected to get 10MPG towing a Ford F150.
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Old 12-07-2022, 06:55 PM   #8
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To me I don’t understand roof raises .. I think they make the bus unstable and you can’t drive through a lot of areas because it’s too tall..but that’s just me I’m only 5’9
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Old 12-08-2022, 01:25 PM   #9
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The mayor fuel increase in this one would be the rear slope.
You want to cut the airflow as short and sharp as possible.
The rear slope will pull air down and in from the sides and separate air flow, creating a HUGE vortex - which is usually nothing short of a pack of drag-chutes!
To eliminate the issue of creating a Vortex the rear slope MUST stay below 11°, better below 10° to have have some safety factor....

On the shown bus, this is WAY more than that....

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Old 12-08-2022, 04:44 PM   #10
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I'm basing the first number on the fact that my 10 MPG shuttle bus still is expected to get 10MPG towing a Ford F150.
Wouldn't it get 20 MPG? 10 for the bus and 10 for the pickup? I think this is how it works... Or maybe you subtract one from the other? I do know for sure that you get twice the MPG on a round trip than on a single one-way trip. See, that's the nice thing about science: facts don't care whether you believe them or not.

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Old 12-08-2022, 05:00 PM   #11
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Wouldn't it get 20 MPG? 10 for the bus and 10 for the pickup? I think this is how it works... Or maybe you subtract one from the other? I do know for sure that you get twice the MPG on a round trip than on a single one-way trip. See, that's the nice thing about science: facts don't care whether you believe them or not.

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Good point. Pretty sure the Ford gets 13MPG so I'm actually getting a plus 3 MPG advantage for a total of 23 MPG, double that for round trip!

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