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11-08-2007, 07:25 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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maybe
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11-08-2007, 08:51 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 786
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Re: maybe
Maybe what?
You thinking about buying this? Looks like a nice bus.
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11-08-2007, 08:53 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern BC Canada
Posts: 538
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Re: maybe
may be, what???
looks like a very nice unit, specially the hight seems to be what I need.
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11-08-2007, 02:47 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
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11-08-2007, 02:58 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 786
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Re: maybe
how much do they want for it? Looks nice... Air ride is very cool.
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11-08-2007, 08:15 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
So here's the one really bad part. CNG
I am searching for a motor. It has a John Deere 6.8 CNG motor with less than 12K on a fresh
rebuild. It's sooo smooooth and very quite. But the tanks have expired so they can't be filled.
This is one really nice bus. It has less than 43k original miles, no really. Not like the other one I bought
from that scumbag used car saleman.
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11-08-2007, 08:27 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,657
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Re: maybe
won't a cng motor run on gasoline?? with a carberator/efi obviously.
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11-08-2007, 08:31 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
I have no idea, but with the amout of work that would take I would rather put a Cummins 8.3 or a Cat 3208. First choice is the Cummins. Priority given to the cheapest.
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11-08-2007, 08:52 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Northern BC Canada
Posts: 538
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Re: maybe
cant you just have the tanks recertfied? or in worst case, put new ones in. But this bus can not be old enough that you shouldnt be able to have them recertified. For sure cheaper and less expensive then going through the whole conversion.
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11-08-2007, 10:08 PM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
New tanks are between $18000 and $25000 dollars US. That's right kiddies. I don't know about recertifying, that was something I was going to look into. But I will still only have a 100-200 mile range.
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11-09-2007, 08:13 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta or Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevorlet AT545 Allison auto
Engine: 8.2 litter Detriot Deisel
Rated Cap: 66
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Re: maybe
Why and how do you get tanks certified? Are these the fuel tank you are talking about. Do we all need to get certified tanks? Or is it just Cali?
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I came across an empty space
It trembled and exploded
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11-09-2007, 08:29 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
All CNG (compressed natural gas) tanks have an exipation date. I think its 15 years. These tanks are dated 1992 and exired in 10/92. Unless you have CNG tanks, you have nothing to worry about. It's not just for California, it's everywhere. I still don't know if they can be certified.
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11-09-2007, 09:01 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta or Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevorlet AT545 Allison auto
Engine: 8.2 litter Detriot Deisel
Rated Cap: 66
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Re: maybe
Ok. Now I get it. Wow natural gas cool. Hope you figure it out.
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"Escapin' through the lily fields
I came across an empty space
It trembled and exploded
Left a bus stop in its place
The bus came by and I got on
That's when it all began
There was cowboy Neal
At the wheel
Of a bus to never-ever land"
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11-09-2007, 09:16 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2006
Location: mid Mo.
Posts: 936
Year: 1976
Coachwork: bluebird
Chassis: F33695
Engine: 427 chevy converted to 466
Rated Cap: 84
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Re: maybe
NICE BUS! I assume those tanks are like high pressure bottled gas (oxygen, acetylene, fire extingisher, etc), they have to be hydrostatically tested every so often to protect you and the public. You will probably have to drop them out to be tested and then you will be good to go for another 15 years. Look into that and then buy that baby, it looks pristine. sportyrick
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11-09-2007, 09:28 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
I just noticed the title or whatever you call it for swinada, it says crew member. what is that?
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11-09-2007, 09:29 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Grand Rapids, MI
Posts: 786
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Re: maybe
How much is the bus? If it's cheap enough it might be worth fixing.
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11-09-2007, 09:37 AM
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Moderator
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: NUNYA
Posts: 4,236
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: 3800
Engine: DT408, AT545
Rated Cap: 23 500 gvw
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Re: maybe
I bought it. $2000. I also found a mechanic that works on school busses. Now I must find a motor. Hopefully, I can sell the CNG motor to pay for a diesel swap.
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11-09-2007, 10:58 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: near flint michigan
Posts: 2,657
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Re: maybe
assuming the motor will run on gasoline i think a megasquirt GM TBI setup would be a great match.
swapping out a giant engine doesn't sound like much fun to me.
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11-09-2007, 11:51 AM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: Atlanta or Oregon
Posts: 157
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Chevorlet AT545 Allison auto
Engine: 8.2 litter Detriot Deisel
Rated Cap: 66
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Re: maybe
As good as it looks buy it and if you cant get the tanks to pass convert to gas. That is one hot bus.
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"Escapin' through the lily fields
I came across an empty space
It trembled and exploded
Left a bus stop in its place
The bus came by and I got on
That's when it all began
There was cowboy Neal
At the wheel
Of a bus to never-ever land"
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