|
|
12-30-2019, 02:16 PM
|
#1
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Possible Skoolie work spot in AZ
Hey Everyone,
Earlier this year I bought a house with plenty of bus parking in a community that is tolerant of Skoolie work in the yard. I had hoped to rent it to a fellow Skoolie. It didn't work out. I didn't have any solid response so I rented it to a local.
I am thinking about another project.
I found a piece of land about 20 minutes from Sanders AZ. It has about 10 acres of relatively flat ground. I would install solar, generator, workshop building with a restroom and a water tank.
As you can see, it is really not grid. Solar/generator for power and hauled water. There is a community well about a mile away for filling thanks.
The property is at over 5000 ft elevation and enjoys a moderate climate.
Off the top of my head, I think that I could support 4-6 Skoolie at a time.
With as many folks as I have seen that have trouble finding a place to work on their buses or have had weather that slows them down, I think that a place like this would be beneficial.
What do you all think?
Anyone want to get on the wait list?
|
|
|
12-30-2019, 04:21 PM
|
#2
|
Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 216
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
|
I think it's a wonderful idea. How much would you expect to charge for rent?
|
|
|
12-30-2019, 04:33 PM
|
#3
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Western Oregon
Posts: 876
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Blue-Bird
Chassis: TC RE 3408
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 12V Mechanical/Allison MT643
Rated Cap: Blue-Bird says 72 pass.
|
I might be interested in something like that at some point during this coming year, but I won't be ready for something like that for several months.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 02:31 AM
|
#4
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marceps
I think it's a wonderful idea. How much would you expect to charge for rent?
|
I have not pinned that down yet. I was contemplating something around $250 a month.
I talked to the county building department today and found out that I must install a septic system before I can make any other improvements. I will be getting an estimate on that next week.
I am also looking at a water truck. That would simplify the water supply. I think that the one that I am going to look at holds 3500 gallons. That should last for about a month with reasonable conservation. I you should stumble across a good buy on an older water truck please ping me.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 03:26 AM
|
#5
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
|
I've seen some water trucks on the auction sites before.
Good luck with this, Steve!
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 03:37 AM
|
#6
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
I've seen some water trucks on the auction sites before.
Good luck with this, Steve!
|
Thanks CB.
I am going to look at one that is going for auction. It has a DT-466 and a 7 speed syncro transmission. The ugly side is that it has over 400k miles.
All I need it to do is make a 30 mile round trip once a month.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 07:17 AM
|
#7
|
Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: pa
Posts: 2,498
Year: 98
Coachwork: 1. Corbeil & 2. Thomas
Chassis: 1 ford 1998 e350 4x4 7.3 2 mercedes 2004
Engine: 7.3 powerstroke & MBE906
|
May be better to get a trailer with water tank. for a short distance you can tow that with a pickup.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 07:27 AM
|
#8
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by PNW_Steve
I was contemplating something around $250 a month.
|
I like the concept, but that's a lot for a spot without electricity. I pay $75 for my spot and I'm in the suburbs of a big city.
If you provided electricity (maybe from a large central generator) and water and also maybe bathroom/shower facilities so that people could live there while working on their buses, that might be worth $250 (or even more).
Edit: sorry, didn't read your entire post. I see you already mentioned the bathroom and generator thing, and that it would be indoors. Yeah, this wouldn't be a bad deal for $250. I almost rented an indoor workspace for my bus for $500 a month; it was 40' x 15' and had electricity and even a tiny bathroom, but unfortunately it was only 10' tall with a 9' high door.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 10:58 AM
|
#9
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by joeblack5
May be better to get a trailer with water tank. for a short distance you can tow that with a pickup.
|
Good advice considering that the water truck I was looking at turned out to have an 1100 gallon tank instead of the 2000 gallon tank that I was originally told.
I lived in a spot where we hauled water for our domestic supply. I was just the two of us. I had two 325 gallon IBC totes in the bed of my pickup. I would run into town and fill the two totes as needed.
I can pull a trailer up to 18k lbs with my truck. I am going to poke around and see what I can find for a trailer and totes/tanks.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 05:37 PM
|
#10
|
Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 216
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by musigenesis
I pay $75 for my spot and I'm in the suburbs of a big city.
|
Are you able to stay overnight?
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 06:35 PM
|
#11
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: Jan 2019
Location: Philadelphia
Posts: 6,995
Year: 2003
Coachwork: International
Chassis: CE 300
Engine: DT466e
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Marceps
Are you able to stay overnight?
|
Uh, I don't think the guy would be cool with me living in the spot, if that's what you mean. My bus is not yet habitable, anyway.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 07:27 PM
|
#12
|
Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 216
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner MVP ER
Engine: CAT 3126
|
Yes, that's what I meant. I currently pay $50/month for an outdoor parking spot with discretionary access to electricity and undrinkable water. Staying overnight would be inappropriate (never even bothered asking), and the nearest big city is hours away. That said, I am grateful for the deal I'm getting.
|
|
|
12-31-2019, 08:05 PM
|
#13
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Just to be clear, I am assuming that folks would be living onsite.
If I was going to offer storage with no hookups, for storage and no living onsite it would be a different animal. That would be a $75 option.
I am looking at a place with water and power. Living in and working on your bus would be encouraged.
If all you need is a storage spot this is not for you.
What started me down this road Was The numerous posts that I have seen that talk about folks who cannot find a spot to keep their bus or are having troubles with the city for having a bus on their property.
If you have a good spot that provides hookups, restrooms with a shower and the ability to live in and work on your bus without hassle for $75 a month then that is a better deal than what I could offer.
Thanks for your input.
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 05:37 AM
|
#14
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Lake Geneva, Wisconsin
Posts: 415
Year: 2008
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner HDX
Engine: CAT C7 300hp w/retarder
Rated Cap: 46 + 1 36,200 lbs
|
About 15 or 20 years ago I remember some Silicon Valley-based outfit trying to start a chain of community shops, where the owner would outfit the property with tools, particularly big and/or expensive tools that a person might not want to buy for a single use or for short term usage.
I don't know what happened to that operation I don't hear anything about it anymore, but it's an idea that has been bouncing around in my head.
I currently have a lathe, a milling machine some large air compressors, an industrial strength pressure washer, and a commercial sewing machine that I could put to work in such an operation.
I am thinking western Colorado is particularly fertile ground for a libertarian oriented community shop. Who knows, one might even be able to put on seminars on subjects like TIG welding, manual machining with lathe and mill, and rebuilding the caterpillar C7 that could draw in locals and folks from all over the country looking for a three day educational get away.
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 06:53 AM
|
#15
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2016
Location: MONTANA
Posts: 471
Year: 1995
Coachwork: AMTRAM
Chassis: INT
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: Big Girl
|
Made a nice post and lost it all..
Long story short sounds like a very good ideal and I would love to be a part of it, but sanders seems kind of remote, if it were me I would try looking for something with a Walmart Home Depot within 15-20 mins.
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 07:12 AM
|
#16
|
Skoolie
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Central missouri
Posts: 128
Chassis: 2000 Int Amtran
Engine: DT466HT
Rated Cap: 84
|
Steve I constantly am thinking of the same thing. Actually chewed up with it. We need 4 or 5 of these across the country. I think charging by electricity used with a very small daily or weekly fee in case visitor is totally self sufficient. All spots need to be close enough to an area that can provide some opportunities for some part time work. I would love to be a partner is such an adventure. As the gov't restricts more national parks this will be vital to keeping the dream alive. Maybe 2 of them be setup for building and repair of buses, aka homes, and 2 or 3 that are more park like. Just a dreamer. I will shut up!
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 08:27 AM
|
#17
|
Bus Crazy
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Dowdy Lakes, Colorado
Posts: 1,444
Year: 1989
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Saf-T-Liner ER
Engine: 3208 CAT/MT643 tranny
Rated Cap: 87
|
Once we get our rig set up, we may be interested as well. I'll have the front half of the car carrier set up for woodworking/metalworking to help others with their builds. Electrical and water would be helpful assets. Question: Would the utilities be included with the rent? I presume as much, but want to clarify that point....
Awesome concept Steve!
M
__________________
Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence. — George Washington
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 10:09 AM
|
#18
|
Bus Nut
Join Date: Apr 2019
Location: Savannah GA
Posts: 756
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: TC2000
Engine: Cummins 5.9 24v
Rated Cap: 54 passenger
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by MacC
Steve I constantly am thinking of the same thing. Actually chewed up with it. We need 4 or 5 of these across the country. I think charging by electricity used with a very small daily or weekly fee in case visitor is totally self sufficient. All spots need to be close enough to an area that can provide some opportunities for some part time work. I would love to be a partner is such an adventure. As the gov't restricts more national parks this will be vital to keeping the dream alive. Maybe 2 of them be setup for building and repair of buses, aka homes, and 2 or 3 that are more park like. Just a dreamer. I will shut up!
|
I'm on your side of the country too. I think Arizona is more my speed, but my kid hopefully starts college in the fall. Probably in Atlanta. He might take a year off, he likes to travel but he says he doesn't want to live in a bus.
If you decide to move forward you're pretty much guaranteed one tenant, willing to invest free and cheap labor to help get it off the ground.
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 12:20 PM
|
#19
|
Bus Crazy
Join Date: Aug 2019
Location: Moved to Zealand!
Posts: 1,517
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freightliner FS-65
Engine: 7.2L Cat 3126 turbo diesel
Rated Cap: 71 passenger 30,000 gvwr
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by wrenchtech
About 15 or 20 years ago I remember some Silicon Valley-based outfit trying to start a chain of community shops, where the owner would outfit the property with tools, particularly big and/or expensive tools that a person might not want to buy for a single use or for short term usage.
I don't know what happened to that operation I don't hear anything about it anymore, but it's an idea that has been bouncing around in my head.
I currently have a lathe, a milling machine some large air compressors, an industrial strength pressure washer, and a commercial sewing machine that I could put to work in such an operation.
I am thinking western Colorado is particularly fertile ground for a libertarian oriented community shop. Who knows, one might even be able to put on seminars on subjects like TIG welding, manual machining with lathe and mill, and rebuilding the caterpillar C7 that could draw in locals and folks from all over the country looking for a three day educational get away.
|
The idea is alive and well --
google "Makers workshop" or "Makers workspace" etc.
Usually in more urban areas cause it takes enough people (money) to make it work. Grand Junction might be big enough...
|
|
|
01-01-2020, 02:18 PM
|
#20
|
Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Eastern WA
Posts: 6,401
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: All American RE (A3RE)
Engine: Cummins ISC (8.3)
Rated Cap: 72
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by M1031A1
Once we get our rig set up, we may be interested as well. I'll have the front half of the car carrier set up for woodworking/metalworking to help others with their builds. Electrical and water would be helpful assets. Question: Would the utilities be included with the rent? I presume as much, but want to clarify that point....
Awesome concept Steve!
M
|
I am still trying to come up with a fair price structure.
What do you think of metered utilities with a certain amount of usage included in the monthly charge and use beyond that billed by the usage that exceeds the base?
|
|
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is Off
|
|
|
|
» Recent Threads |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|