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05-13-2017, 07:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Roof Hatches
How do I disable the roof hatch alarm function? Will cutting the cables at the hatch result in an open circuit that will set off the alarm? I'd like to be able to fully open the hatches if the weather permits. That, and it would allow me to get up on the roof for a possible patio.
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05-13-2017, 07:42 PM
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#2
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 543
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Cut the wires test the switch with an ohm meter when hatch is closed. If reading meter as 0 ohms when hatch is closed then connect wires together. If reading as an open circuit then cap the wires. Hope this helps.
Gordon
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05-13-2017, 08:02 PM
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#3
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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You can turn the latch on the top hatch and pop it open. You'll have to put the latch back together well before you'll be able to start up again.
The hatch hinges nicely out of the way. Just pretend it's a fire drill.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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05-14-2017, 05:53 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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I know about turning the red latch; however, the alarm going off will not add to the mood.
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05-14-2017, 06:51 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by CaptSquid
I know about turning the red latch; however, the alarm going off will not add to the mood.
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If you look in my shorty thread it shows taking out the hatch and disabling the buzzer.
I just had to disconnect this wire
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05-14-2017, 08:25 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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The alarm shouldn't be going off unless you've got the key turned on. Mine doesn't buzz at all to just open it while the key is off, for roof access apparently. Maybe mine's different. They all seem to be a little different.
The other day the interlock apparently caused someone's electric fuel valve to stay closed, but it allowed them to crank the vehicle while the buzzer was going off. No smoke. Someone else removed their stop sign and the interlock engaged.
It seems that buses are like a box of chocolates? Everyone's interlock seems to disable a little different, even on seemingly similar buses. I'm too far out in the boonies to take a chance on activating the interlock and being stuck, especially with my adverse electrical abilities.
All I'm saying is you can work around the interlock, usually anyway. My latch reattached easily and I had no problems starting afterwards.
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Robin
Nobody's Business
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05-15-2017, 08:14 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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I don't understand why ...
I've disconnected (i did not cut) my hatches, emergency Windows and stop signs and the alarm buzzer doesn't go off when I turn the key and start it up....
Should I just not look a gift horse in the mouth?
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05-15-2017, 08:25 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
I don't understand why ...
I've disconnected (i did not cut) my hatches, emergency Windows and stop signs and the alarm buzzer doesn't go off when I turn the key and start it up....
Should I just not look a gift horse in the mouth?
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If your windows, hatches, etc had four wires going to them, then they'd have had the interlock. My 92 and 98 AmTrans only had two to each, which made me glad.
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05-15-2017, 05:03 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Apr 2014
Location: EHT New Jersey
Posts: 1,134
Year: 2003
Coachwork: AmTran
Chassis: International 3000RE
Engine: T444E/AT545
Rated Cap: 75
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If your windows, hatches, etc had four wires going to them, then they'd have had the interlock. My 92 and 98 AmTrans only had two to each, which made me glad.
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Ditto with mine. And the rear and side exits were already disabled when I got it
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05-16-2017, 02:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Ditto with mine. And the rear and side exits were already disabled when I got it
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Nice!!!
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05-16-2017, 02:11 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If your windows, hatches, etc had four wires going to them, then they'd have had the interlock. My 92 and 98 AmTrans only had two to each, which made me glad.
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I'm totally psyched!
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05-16-2017, 02:16 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Scooternj
Ditto with mine. And the rear and side exits were already disabled when I got it
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Hey, I wonder if you're anywhere near me...I'm in Westtown NY near New Milford NJ.
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05-16-2017, 07:04 PM
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#13
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Quote:
Originally Posted by EastCoastCB
If you look in my shorty thread it shows taking out the hatch and disabling the buzzer.
I just had to disconnect this wire
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That's all I had so I guess I lucked out [emoji2]
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05-16-2017, 07:23 PM
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#14
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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My E-door had it. I simply had to cut the wire and remove the switch. I haven't tried any of the E-windows, but the roof hatches are definitely armed.
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05-16-2017, 08:17 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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Both of my E doors only had the one wire along with both E Windows. I'm really lucky because I really have NO clue whatsoever about electronics.
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05-16-2017, 08:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,829
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tobeamiss
Both of my E doors only had the one wire along with both E Windows. I'm really lucky because I really have NO clue whatsoever about electronics.
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Me either, but I AM learning.
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05-16-2017, 08:46 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: NY
Posts: 774
Year: 2002
Coachwork: International
Engine: dt466
Rated Cap: 65C-43A
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AMOF I'm actually trying to learn it right now online. At least the basics. I'm not real bad at being self taught though, so let's see what I can do
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