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04-16-2016, 01:21 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 220
Year: 2003
Chassis: IC CE
Engine: T444
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Tank-less LP water heater?
Is a tankless water heater a better option than a 6 gal water heater? A few units seem similarly priced between the two.
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04-16-2016, 04:20 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I guess it depends on how much hot water you need. The 6 gallon water heater will take a bit of time to recover, but on the other hand 6 gallons is a lot of hot water. The tank-less units vary widely in price but are supposed to supply a steady stream of hot water for as long as you need it. If it can heat 3 gallons of water per minute I'm pretty sure that's all you'd need. I forget how the ratings are on the tank-less heaters.
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04-16-2016, 05:09 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Dec 2014
Location: Birmingham Al
Posts: 602
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Blue Bird
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I have a tankless, and I will NEVER have anything else - it is awesome, not sure why anyone gripes about them? I guess they want to constantly boil water and heat up the house, burning gas all the time?
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04-16-2016, 06:08 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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I have two propane household sized water heaters I bought some years ago that are in storage. Vent that into the bus as a source of heat, and a big tank of hot water to boot.
Yes there's the venting issues, but with propane there are always venting issue to get rid of the moisture. Close your top hatch on a wooden cooking spoon and it works fine. For a couple months this winter I needed some real heat to compensate for all this glass while it's freezing outside. I'd really like a floor heating system and some people use dedicated tankless water heater in a floor system.
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04-16-2016, 09:45 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: Gonvick MN
Posts: 339
Year: 1975
Chassis: Gillig
Engine: Cat 3208t/10 speed transmission
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Quote:
Originally Posted by dredman
I have a tankless, and I will NEVER have anything else - it is awesome, not sure why anyone gripes about them? I guess they want to constantly boil water and heat up the house, burning gas all the time?
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I agree. I don't know why anyone would use anything else.
Unless you like running out of hot water during your shower.
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04-16-2016, 10:14 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 220
Year: 2003
Chassis: IC CE
Engine: T444
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan N
I agree. I don't know why anyone would use anything else.
Unless you like running out of hot water during your shower. 
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sounds like tankless is the way to go then. I will start researching them now  , thanks!
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04-16-2016, 10:23 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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For anyone with experience with the tank-less water heaters, what are the most dependable brands and how much output is needed?
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04-16-2016, 11:35 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: chicago, il
Posts: 220
Year: 2003
Chassis: IC CE
Engine: T444
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Alan N
I agree. I don't know why anyone would use anything else.
Unless you like running out of hot water during your shower. 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
For anyone with experience with the tank-less water heaters, what are the most dependable brands and how much output is needed?
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ALL OF THIS ^^^^^^^^^ up here!
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04-17-2016, 06:38 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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04-17-2016, 10:02 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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Quote:
Originally Posted by superdave
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Do you use the shower head that comes with it, or have you hard plumbed it into your current system? I'm just wondering about hot water for my sinks as well.
-Doc
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04-17-2016, 04:10 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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I just ordered one anyway. How did you vent yours? Everywhere I read says it's meant for outdoor use. I am sure I can install some ducting, was just curious how you did yours.
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04-17-2016, 05:40 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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I dealt with 20 & 5 litre boilers in Germany. They don't heat up until you turn them on. So you had to wait a bit. Big deal. Likewise demand heaters. While I love the idea of instant hot water, I don't like the idea of keeping beaucoup gallons lying about doing nothing.
Demand heater for me as well.
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04-17-2016, 06:40 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Yeah, I like that idea too. But I've got two big propane water heaters. It is a large volume of water but the exhaust can be vented into the bus to provide a source of heat. Most of us use the bejebees out of these catalytic propane heaters that vent into the room anyway. Maybe I should just take apart the water heater and use the burner to heat the bus without 40 gallons of hot water sitting there.
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04-17-2016, 07:57 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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i installed the w h in my bathroom. its hard piped but i only heat the water "shower hot". im going to use this unit on my bus and get the l 10 for my home. i have a bath fan right above the unit. ill try and post a pic
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04-17-2016, 08:49 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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And...tankless use a fraction of the LP that a "standard" tank type uses.
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04-18-2016, 12:24 AM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Albuquerque, NM
Posts: 32
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: TC2000 RE
Engine: Cummins 8.3; Allison 3060R
Rated Cap: 66 passenger
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I bought one of the eccotemp L10's also, and am trying to figure out how to plumb it into future kitchen/bathroom area... not sure if to just use with shower, or if can have hot water in kitchen, etc...
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04-18-2016, 06:48 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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Quote:
Originally Posted by engelstad
I bought one of the eccotemp L10's also, and am trying to figure out how to plumb it into future kitchen/bathroom area... not sure if to just use with shower, or if can have hot water in kitchen, etc...
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I M O with on demand if you have to mix cold with your hot water your heating it to much. its not like you have a tank of hot water to run out, you have endless hot water. put it in an area you can easy get to. doing dishes? just turn it up a little more.im single and i can go over 3 months on a grill tank of gas. these little units are amazing.
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04-18-2016, 07:18 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Mar 2015
Location: hills of sw virginia
Posts: 889
Year: 1996
Chassis: thomas
Engine: 8.3 cummins
Rated Cap: 11 window
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love pex, wouldn't use anything else.
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04-18-2016, 07:20 AM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Feb 2014
Location: The Valley - Arizona
Posts: 644
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freight-shaker (Freightliner)
Engine: Cat 3126b 250 HP
Rated Cap: Only 1 seat
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So you don't have any exhaust issues with it being inside? I'm not the most knowledgeable when it comes to cng or lpg.
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04-18-2016, 04:10 PM
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#20
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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There are two categories of tankless. Basically built for either indoors or out. You can modify an outdoor unit by building in an exhaust system for it but need to know what you are doing. That is what Jack ("Ol' Trunt") did on his '35 Chevy. CO2 poisoning.
Unless done properly, you risk CO2 poisoning.
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