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05-30-2017, 08:10 AM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Originally Posted by Tango
"I found one of those sharp burrs with the air mattress this weekend. Grrr."
Look on the bright side...it could have been a waterbed.
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Hmm, waterbed, potable water, water tanks, inboard or outboard.... I wonder. 
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05-30-2017, 08:13 AM
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#42
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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A possible addition to the "Jacuzzi Bus"?
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05-30-2017, 08:30 AM
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#43
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Haven't read that one (yet).
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05-30-2017, 05:49 PM
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#44
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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So, I've been given a Dayton 60 gallon air compressor that I am told works. I have *NOT* wired it up because the control box is damaged and missing a cover. It's been a while since I've done electrical, but ...
It says Max PSI is 135, should I get a 125 cut-off switch? Motor says 15A, 240V, do I wire up this bad boy like a water heater, red and black to the contacts, neutral is unused (and green, of course, to ground). I can wire up 14 ga wire for a 15A circuit, as I recall (and it will be quite close to the breaker box).
  
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05-30-2017, 06:07 PM
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#45
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2013
Location: Picton,Ont, Can.
Posts: 1,956
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: GMC
Engine: Cat 3116
Rated Cap: 72
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I think I see the gage goes to 200lbs. If so, I would hook it up as you say and see what it cuts out at pressure wise. That switch can be adjusted up or down for cutoff pressure.
Not sure what you have for an electrical panel but a 2-pole 15amp breaker of the same make should be fine. No neutral, so you could use the white and mark it with black tape like the other conductor so there is no confusion.
Is that for home or on the bus?
John-
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05-30-2017, 07:23 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Nov 2015
Location: Billings, MT
Posts: 1,269
Year: 2003
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: HDX
Engine: Cat C7
Rated Cap: 84 passenger
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tango
"i found one of those sharp burrs with the air mattress this weekend. Grrr."
look on the bright side...it could have been a waterbed.
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SURF'S UP! Kawabunga!
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05-30-2017, 08:13 PM
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#47
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: May 2016
Location: Georgia
Posts: 2,264
Year: 2001
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: IH
Engine: T444E
Rated Cap: 14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackJohn
I think I see the gage goes to 200lbs. If so, I would hook it up as you say and see what it cuts out at pressure wise. That switch can be adjusted up or down for cutoff pressure.
Not sure what you have for an electrical panel but a 2-pole 15amp breaker of the same make should be fine. No neutral, so you could use the white and mark it with black tape like the other conductor so there is no confusion.
Is that for home or on the bus?
John-
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This is (for now, at least) intended for home use. I have a typical 200 amp home box (I forget the brand, but will be sure to check and get the appropriate breakers).
Just because the gauge goes up to 200 doesn't mean the tank can. One photo shows a label indicating a max rating of 135 PSI, and I'm not too keen on hooking it up with a damaged control unit, the switch lever seems to be broken and there's no cover.
I'm planning to snag a shortie bus with air brakes (and wheelchair lift if possible) so I fail to see a need for another air compressor on a bus so equipped.
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05-30-2017, 08:22 PM
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#48
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tango
A possible addition to the "Jacuzzi Bus"?
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wonder what ever happened to the jacuzzi bus
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05-30-2017, 08:24 PM
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#49
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Originally Posted by Brad_SwiftFur
This is (for now, at least) intended for home use. I have a typical 200 amp home box (I forget the brand, but will be sure to check and get the appropriate breakers).
Just because the gauge goes up to 200 doesn't mean the tank can. One photo shows a label indicating a max rating of 135 PSI, and I'm not too keen on hooking it up with a damaged control unit, the switch lever seems to be broken and there's no cover.
I'm planning to snag a shortie bus with air brakes (and wheelchair lift if possible) so I fail to see a need for another air compressor on a bus so equipped.
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my only issue with relying on the bus air is the fact when I need air tools to take stuff apart its usually something that requires the bus to be turned off.. and it doesnt take long to drain onboard tanks..
-Christopher
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05-30-2017, 08:33 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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It's probably a bad idea, but you could easily connect a regular 20 or 30 gallon air tank through the service connection and use that as a larger reservoir while the bus is turned off.
I've thought of that extra tank idea as a way to keep the brakes off while towing a bus originally, but it could extend the use of air tools.
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05-30-2017, 08:42 PM
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#51
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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Originally Posted by Robin97396
It's probably a bad idea, but you could easily connect a regular 20 or 30 gallon air tank through the service connection and use that as a larger reservoir while the bus is turned off.
I've thought of that extra tank idea as a way to keep the brakes off while towing a bus originally, but it could extend the use of air tools.
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when using air tools it doesnt take long to empty out 30+ gallons of air..
-Christopher
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05-30-2017, 09:22 PM
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#52
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: So Cal
Posts: 3,231
Year: 1935
Coachwork: Superior
Chassis: Chevy
Engine: 317 ci/tid / Isuzu
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Or 30,000 either. Don't kid yourself, air tools consume a lot of air and flat ass don't work without the proper cfm.
Jack 
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05-30-2017, 09:40 PM
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#53
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Yeah, that's why I bought a roller for my paint job. I've got an adequate compressor but my spray gun seems to have walked off so I'll just roll it rather than buy another sprayer.
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Nobody's Business
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06-06-2017, 07:10 AM
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#54
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Yeah, that's why I bought a roller for my paint job. I've got an adequate compressor but my spray gun seems to have walked off so I'll just roll it rather than buy another sprayer.
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$50 will get you a 4 cfm sprayer by Husky. That's what I used.
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06-06-2017, 07:33 AM
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#55
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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One "tool" I have found invaluable... Penetrating oil. I prefer "PB Blaster", but any flavor will do.
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06-06-2017, 08:03 AM
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#56
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
One "tool" I have found invaluable... Penetrating oil. I prefer "PB Blaster", but any flavor will do.
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I think I've run out of Kroil but on the bus I haven't needed any. All the bolts that refuse to let go get cut.
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06-06-2017, 08:04 AM
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#57
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Brewerbob
I think I've run out of Kroil but on the bus I haven't needed any. All the bolts that refuse to let go get cut.
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I have had to get into the engine a bit. Even if they look good they get sprayed. Don't want to take any chances. Lol
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06-06-2017, 08:12 AM
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#58
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
I have had to get into the engine a bit. Even if they look good they get sprayed. Don't want to take any chances. Lol
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I love that stuff. One can will last for YEARS!
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06-06-2017, 08:18 AM
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#59
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Essex, MD
Posts: 3,738
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Blue Bird
Chassis: Blue Bird TC RE 3904, Flat Nose, 40', 277" wh base
Engine: 8.3L Cummins ISC 260hp, MT643, 4.44 rear
Rated Cap: 84 pax or 1 RV; 33,000lbs
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Njsurf73
I have had to get into the engine a bit. Even if they look good they get sprayed. Don't want to take any chances. Lol
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Cutting engine bolts will get a different result than cutting seat bolts.
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06-06-2017, 08:39 AM
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#60
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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FWIW --- The DOD ran extensive tests on various brands of penetrating solutions and found that that the one that beat all the others...was a home brew.
1/2 Transmission Fluid
1/2 Acetone
You do have to shake it to keep it mixed but I have tried it and it does work like gangbusters.
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