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05-22-2017, 12:20 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 10
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Top ten tools!
I'm a thirty year old single mom getting ready to buy and covert. What are your top tools hacks or time saving devices. Like a top ten of things I need to do this efficiently.
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05-22-2017, 12:44 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Willamina, Oregon
Posts: 6,409
Coachwork: 97 Bluebird TC1000 5.9
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Welcome
Oh, you're going to be popular on here with an opening like like that.
The tool you'll need depends a lot on what type of build you're doing. Weekend camper type build primarily in warm areas, or a live in made for harsher climates?
You'd need wrenches and/or sockets for removing the seats, prybars for pulling up the floor (full build), either hammer and chisel or pneumatic chisel for removing rivets. Cordless tools are really nice but they limit how long you can work.
The tools you'll need are something you should probably buy as you move along through your build. The decisions you make about how you're going to put together you bus will determine what tools you need.
A good size canister vacuum will be your friend when you're cleaning up.
Have you decided what type of bus you want yet?
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Nobody's Business
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05-22-2017, 01:41 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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My Fein comes in first
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05-22-2017, 01:42 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Sep 2013
Location: Vacaville, Ca
Posts: 1,634
Year: 1988
Coachwork: Crown / Pusher
Engine: 8.3 Cummins
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Then The Treager
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05-22-2017, 02:09 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stu & Filo. T
My Fein comes in first
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Those fein multi tools are pretty bad-ass.
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05-22-2017, 02:46 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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First tool any bus conversion needs is gonna be an angle grinder.
Air chisel and impact are pretty essential as well.
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05-22-2017, 03:29 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,363
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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A credit card?
Seriously, what tools you buy depends on your skill level and what needs to be done. Making a bus into a tin tent for occasional camping won't need much more than basic tools such as those from Home Despot, but if you plan on doing more you'll be amazed how many you'll end up buying! Even if I only need a tool once, I never begrudge buying it - I think of tools as an investment that will always pay for itself. For example, I bought a very pricy crowfoot wrench just to tighten one hydraulic fitting about an eighth of a turn, but I had no choice, and maybe I'll need it again at some point.
Harbor Fright has some decent tools and some utter crap - you just have to be selective what you buy there. HD has sales when their prices are crazy-low, so I stock up then even if I won't need it for a while. Oh yes, almost forgot - buy good eye protection; your eyes are irreplaceable.
Tools are good! (And opposable thumbs, but they're free.)
John
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05-22-2017, 03:29 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Robin97396
Welcome
Oh, you're going to be popular on here with an opening like like that.
The tool you'll need depends a lot on what type of build you're doing. Weekend camper type build primarily in warm areas, or a live in made for harsher climates?
You'd need wrenches and/or sockets for removing the seats, prybars for pulling up the floor (full build), either hammer and chisel or pneumatic chisel for removing rivets. Cordless tools are really nice but they limit how long you can work.
The tools you'll need are something you should probably buy as you move along through your build. The decisions you make about how you're going to put together you bus will determine what tools you need.
A good size canister vacuum will be your friend when you're cleaning up.
Have you decided what type of bus you want yet?
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I'm currently bidding on a 1999 blue bird 40 footer. I will be converting to off grid and living in the bus in Colorado so some hot lots of cold. I'm mean the bigger purchases simpler tools aside. So what kinds of tools that make lots of noise so to speak!
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05-22-2017, 03:50 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: Central Oregon
Posts: 74
Year: 1995
Coachwork: Amtran
Chassis: Gensis
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinky
So what kinds of tools that make lots of noise so to speak!
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The ones you want to make your life easier. I've spent a fair bit on tools but they are an investment and having the right tool makes things easier and better.
Angle Grinder
Impact Drill
Sawzaw
old fashion wrench with an elbow
Local Harbor Freight for destroyable tools
Later I found these tools needed
20g Air compressor
Chop saw
Table saw
Jigsaw
all sorts of saws
Corded powerfull drill
Air tools
Youtube
Skoolie.net
If your serious you can accomplish anything. Great knowledge on this subject between this forum and Youtube.
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05-22-2017, 04:36 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Crozz
The ones you want to make your life easier. I've spent a fair bit on tools but they are an investment and having the right tool makes things easier and better.
Angle Grinder
Impact Drill
Sawzaw
old fashion wrench with an elbow
Local Harbor Freight for destroyable tools
Later I found these tools needed
20g Air compressor
Chop saw
Table saw
Jigsaw
all sorts of saws
Corded powerfull drill
Air tools
Youtube
Skoolie.net
If your serious you can accomplish anything. Great knowledge on this subject between this forum and Youtube.
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This is exactly what I'm looking for thanks so much. I may be behind the converting curve but I know I can do anything if I fail long enough first.
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05-22-2017, 04:41 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Mar 2011
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 8,462
Year: 1946
Coachwork: Chevrolet/Wayne
Chassis: 1- 1/2 ton
Engine: Cummins 4BT
Rated Cap: 15
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"I know I can do anything if I fail long enough first."
Brilliant! You are gonna do just fine.
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05-22-2017, 08:47 PM
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Almost There
Join Date: Sep 2015
Location: Wauchula, Florida
Posts: 85
Year: 1993
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: International
Engine: DT360
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Face shields and safety glasses, and a respirator or at least a face mask if you're sanding or messing with fiberglass. Don't forget ear protection! I'm only 19 and I already have slight hearing loss from using the angle grinder without it. I've never been in a shop where they use it but it is immensely important.
The angle grinder is definitely the most versatile tool for the bus project other than the drill. Die grinders are also good for getting in tight spaces and over your head, since they're smaller.
For wiring, get a wire stripper, crimper, and cutters. Or you can get an all-in-one 12V wiring tool. Electrical work is further on in the build but I found that I needed to do work on the vehiclular wiring.
If you're planning on using lots of metal like I've been doing, a small welder and a chop saw (miter saw for metal) are good tools to have. If not you can forego these.
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05-22-2017, 08:57 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Columbus Ohio
Posts: 18,848
Year: 1991
Coachwork: Carpenter
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DTA360 / MT643
Rated Cap: 7 Row Handicap
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GLOVES!!! you are working around sharp metal.. even if its 90 degrees outside i wear long jacket and gloves... jagged metal can cut right through skin like warm butter...
also gloves are quite handy when filling the diesel fuel as the diesel pumps are sometimes greasy and grimey..
-Christopher
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05-23-2017, 04:28 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wendysdrivethrudude
Face shields and safety glasses, and a respirator or at least a face mask if you're sanding or messing with fiberglass. Don't forget ear protection! I'm only 19 and I already have slight hearing loss from using the angle grinder without it. I've never been in a shop where they use it but it is immensely important.
The angle grinder is definitely the most versatile tool for the bus project other than the drill. Die grinders are also good for getting in tight spaces and over your head, since they're smaller.
For wiring, get a wire stripper, crimper, and cutters. Or you can get an all-in-one 12V wiring tool. Electrical work is further on in the build but I found that I needed to do work on the vehiclular wiring.
If you're planning on using lots of metal like I've been doing, a small welder and a chop saw (miter saw for metal) are good tools to have. If not you can forego these.
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I don't think I'm skilled enough to do welding any time soon but I'm hoping to be able to do wiring and wood work by the time this is over! Thank you for the advice!
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05-23-2017, 04:32 PM
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Mini-Skoolie
Join Date: May 2017
Location: New Mexico
Posts: 10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cadillackid
GLOVES!!! you are working around sharp metal.. even if its 90 degrees outside i wear long jacket and gloves... jagged metal can cut right through skin like warm butter...
also gloves are quite handy when filling the diesel fuel as the diesel pumps are sometimes greasy and grimey..
-Christopher
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I work for an ambulance company so diesel, gloves, and cutting through skin like butter is not new to me!
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05-23-2017, 06:17 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Massachusetts
Posts: 1,497
Year: 2002
Coachwork: Bluebird
Chassis: Bluebird
Engine: 5.9 Cummins 24v
Rated Cap: 72 pax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Slinky
I don't think I'm skilled enough to do welding any time soon but I'm hoping to be able to do wiring and wood work by the time this is over! Thank you for the advice!
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A decent flux core welder is pretty simple to use on non-structural stuff. An afternoon on YouTube and a couple of scraps to practice on and almost anyone can weld.
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05-23-2017, 06:19 PM
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Bus Geek
Join Date: Sep 2014
Location: Eustis FLORIDA
Posts: 23,764
Year: 1999
Coachwork: Thomas
Chassis: Freighliner FS65
Engine: Cat 3126
Rated Cap: 15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by njsurf73
a decent flux core welder is pretty simple to use on non-structural stuff. An afternoon on youtube and a couple of scraps to practice on and almost anyone can weld.
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this^^^^^^
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05-23-2017, 07:45 PM
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Skoolie
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Bemidji MN
Posts: 209
Year: 1998
Coachwork: Carpenter Body
Chassis: International 3800
Engine: DT466
Rated Cap: 65 to Zero. Folding Chair
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The top best and most important tool is this forum.
The people here are absolutely wonderful.
These folks will help you with any questions or problems you may have and they will not judge you or degrade you or your questions period.
This forum is the best tool period and thank you to everyone that makes it that way.
My personal top tools for starting:
4 inch grinder
Slim pry bar
Long heavy pry bar
Three Gallon buckets for trash and scrap
Plastic painters sheets
Gorilla Tape
Fan, leaf blower, something to keep you cool and help blow dust out.
You will be sweating removing seats, flooring, interior sheet metal panels, a fan and trash buckets are a must.
You will need pry bars a lot, a 4 inch grinder more than the pry bars.
You will get to a point when you have windows, doors, huge areas exposed that need to be covered by plastic or sheets or anything.
It keeps the dust out and can prevent damage to windshields, areas you need to protect like the cluster, steering wheel, tires, anything and everything.
Top tools for construction:
Go buy a power tool package if you havent done so during removal period.
A good screw driver, impact drill, skill saw, leaf blower, jig saw, something the more you have the better. Again most important so far has been a 4 inch grinder.
Once, you get into the building stages, you will need wood working tools, bits, drills, saws, levels, miter boxes, tons of screws, self tapping and construction. Insulation, tapes, glues, glue guns, everything. You are basically building a home inside of a giant van body.
Then you have plumbing, electricity, living, heating, cooling, after any structural changes to the bus.
My personal top ten tools:
Grinder
AC Buzz Box Welder
Screw Driver
Hand Riveter
3 Gallon buckets
about $3000 worth of steel and materials.
I had to reskin my entire bus and do a roof lift. I had to learn how to weld and do all of this work myself with a ton of help from the great people here. This is your best tool period.
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D.L. Jones III
"The Independence"
98 International
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05-23-2017, 08:28 PM
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Bus Nut
Join Date: Jun 2014
Location: MB
Posts: 279
Year: 1997
Coachwork: Tomas
Chassis: International
Engine: T444e
Rated Cap: 54
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Generators!
I say generators (plural) because different sizes have different purposes.
All of my work gets done far from hydro hookup so ......
For even the smallest corded power tools a 3000 watt generator (25 amp) is required, My 6.5 amp grinder will stall out a 1200 watt (10 amp) generator. Larger tools like my 2hp table saw (22 amps @ 120 volt) will run on my 3000 watt generator but it is a losing battle. It works much better on the 5000 watt generator with an extra thick extension cord.
While keeping this in mind I also make sure to use the smallest one possible for the job to save on fuel and our planet.
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"...Baler twine tie downs goin' down the road
On two bald tires and an oversize load..."
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05-23-2017, 10:58 PM
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Bus Crazy
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: Orange County, CA
Posts: 1,363
Year: 1990
Coachwork: Crown, integral. (With 2kW of tiltable solar)
Chassis: Crown Supercoach II (rear engine)
Engine: Detroit 6V92TAC, DDEC 2, Jake brake, Allison HT740
Rated Cap: 37,400 lbs GVWR
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And the one tool nobody's mentioned so far - a BFH. Sometimes you just need to whack the living snot out of something, and wimpy little politically-correct hammers just won't cut it (sorry for the mixed metaphor).
Do you realize that the humble hammer may be mankind's supreme technical achievement? What else made by Homo Sapiens always works, without exception? There's nothing else out there that's more dependable. Yeah!
John
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