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Old 05-30-2018, 09:20 PM   #1
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Who's Bidding Against Us?!?!?

Don't know if you can see who is bidding against you on public surplus but wondering who is bidding against us. Our bus i was fighting bids with San diego and Atlanta. The Goldie bus was fighting same San Diego people and a Miami . If I had to guess both are exporters. Just seeing if anyone knows who it was or had to fight bids from same places.
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Old 05-30-2018, 09:30 PM   #2
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When does the auction end? Stop bidding until the end. By bidding early this is what happens.
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When does the auction end? Stop bidding until the end. By bidding early this is what happens.
At insurance auctions the bidding is done usually less than a minute. They have a prebid but its kinda a joke. Alot people will put a lowball or there max to see if they get it. But watching the sales there are just a few places buying all these busses.
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At insurance auctions the bidding is done usually less than a minute. They have a prebid but its kinda a joke. Alot people will put a lowball or there max to see if they get it. But watching the sales there are just a few places buying all these busses.
This is the time of year all the fleets get bought and sent south of the border.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:29 AM   #5
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As I was driving my newly purchased bus north from San Antonio, about ten pairs of hitched 40' flat nose buses were in the opposite lane headed south. Hitching two of those buses together made for a long vehicle, they must have had over sized vehicle permits. They had the south bound lane so clogged up the traffic was backed up behind them for a mile.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:58 AM   #6
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As I was driving my newly purchased bus north from San Antonio, about ten pairs of hitched 40' flat nose buses were in the opposite lane headed south. Hitching two of those buses together made for a long vehicle, they must have had over sized vehicle permits. They had the south bound lane so clogged up the traffic was backed up behind them for a mile.

I saw this LOTS in texas and in florida in spring and fall.. exporters are loved because they tend to pay whatever it takes to get the busses they want.. if you happen to be bidding against them you'll lose.. Ive weatched exporters walk into a High-price florida bus dealer and just point at 10 busses, start them up turn them off and write a check...



exporters pay lots for navistar drivetrains.. parts are easy to get for them.. they seem not to go much for CAT / freightliner stuff.. and they usually dont seem to go for short busses..


but I agree with Marc, dont bid early, bid late.. you wont get sniped, the auctions extend on every bid (just like a REAL auction)..


although I bid early on my RedByrd. just to practice.. assuming I'd lose because i bid early.. and I ended up winning.. go figure.. LOL.


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Old 05-31-2018, 10:14 AM   #7
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Yea its not bad to put low#out and sometimes no one bids.
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I got beat out on 4 buses before getting mine, and I didn't jump into mine until the last 15 minutes with first bid, and last minute with the winning bid. My auction was not auto extend time thankfully
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I've gotten some outstanding bargains bidding often and early.
I've bid on at least a hundred buses I swear.
But If someone wants to pay more than I am willing or able to, then they can bid more than that amount. Which is what I bid as soon as I see something I like.
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Old 05-31-2018, 02:01 PM   #10
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I've gotten some outstanding bargains bidding often and early.
I've bid on at least a hundred buses I swear.
But If someone wants to pay more than I am willing or able to, then they can bid more than that amount. Which is what I bid as soon as I see something I like.
Different strokes for different folks.
If you played this differently you could win buses for less than what you or anyone who wanted to bid more would pay. Must be nice to have throw away money.
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If you played this differently you could win buses for less than what you or anyone who wanted to bid more would pay. Must be nice to have throw away money.
I've gotten a RAD 1992 Ward Senator rust free and with DT466, 643, air ride, and it was $2150 out the door with fees.

I've gotten a 1998 AmTran CE with 444E and 545 short WC bus with lift and air ride and NEW tires for $1760 TOTAL.

My totally straight, totally rust free 2004 with DASH AC, rear ac, 215HP DT466, Allison 2000, and lots of new suspension/brake work came to $4000 and that one I was glad to pony up for and would do again.
Sure its got a problem. All navistars of that era can have this factory defect. Its why they have revised part #s now.

I haven't thrown away ANY money.
I sold two buses I paid less than four grand for and got over 11k cash.
I made money owning and enjoying buses.
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Old 05-31-2018, 06:32 PM   #12
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ECCB sounds like you have got some good deals. My aggravating deal is fees. Last 2 busses almost 1k in fees.
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I've gotten a RAD 1992 Ward Senator rust free and with DT466, 643, air ride, and it was $2150 out the door with fees.

I've gotten a 1998 AmTran CE with 444E and 545 short WC bus with lift and air ride and NEW tires for $1760 TOTAL.

My totally straight, totally rust free 2004 with DASH AC, rear ac, 215HP DT466, Allison 2000, and lots of new suspension/brake work came to $4000 and that one I was glad to pony up for and would do again.
Sure its got a problem. All navistars of that era can have this factory defect. Its why they have revised part #s now.

I haven't thrown away ANY money.
I sold two buses I paid less than four grand for and got over 11k cash.
I made money owning and enjoying buses.
Not saying you didn't get good deals, only saying you could have possibly saved money bidding in a different fashion.
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Not saying you didn't get good deals, only saying you could have possibly saved money bidding in a different fashion.
He has a plan and he's happy with it. The dough you could save him is well-invested so far as he's concerned. Doesn't fit your plan, but the package of doing it his way and getting what he's getting is giving him what he considers sufficient value. Not sayin' you're wrong at all: just that he wants to play his cards differently.
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A bus is much like anything else. You can diddle it any way you want to, as long as your happy at the end. To each his own. I hope we all win, on the ones we want.
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id say those deals EC got on the ward and first Amtran were really good.. its hard to get ANY nearly rust free good running bus for under 2k... even the 4K for that shorty.. ive seen it and ridden it and its a fantastic bus even with its coolant issue (that by the way developed after its 1100 mile ride home)...

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id say those deals EC got on the ward and first Amtran were really good.. its hard to get ANY nearly rust free good running bus for under 2k... even the 4K for that shorty.. ive seen it and ridden it and its a fantastic bus even with its coolant issue (that by the way developed after its 1100 mile ride home)...

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My point has nothing to do with the buses.
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Not saying you didn't get good deals, only saying you could have possibly saved money bidding in a different fashion.
I do it my way. You do it yours.
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Just trying to help.
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Just trying to help.
Thanks, but I've done smashingly so far. NO REGRETS at all.
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