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Old 11-16-2009, 08:23 PM   #1
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You can check stimulus by zip code!

Imagine my glee when I went to www.recovery.gov , made a few mouse clicks {and a visual search, I guess a searchable database of zip codes would have been EXPENSIVE} to find out how many jobs have been saved/created and at what cost in my zip code.

Zip Code 29407
Number of Jobs Saved/Created 1
Expenditure for said job{s} $790,210.00

So, what about your zip code?

Lets keep the politics to a minimum, the numbers seem to make all the statements needed.

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Old 11-19-2009, 02:26 PM   #2
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Re: You can check stimulus by zip code!

Looks like you guys aren't the only ones who are suspicious of the data.

http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/11/...ors/index.html

House committee wants answers on errors in stimulus data
November 19, 2009 2:03 p.m. EST

(CNN) -- Members of the House Government Reform and Oversight Committee Thursday are taking a hard look at faulty data on the Obama administration's Recovery.gov Web site.

The site is fixing errors that appeared to show hundreds of millions of stimulus dollars were spent in nonexistent congressional districts, the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board said Wednesday.

The job errors, first reported by ABC News, were seen on Recovery.gov summary pages breaking down how many stimulus dollars were received in each state's congressional districts.

Rep. Darrell Issa, R-California, said the jobs reporting is "entirely deceitful."

"No government agency, private sector group or research economics has any idea what the reliable calculation track for these numbers would be," he said.

Issa even went so far as to say that Recovery.gov was something of a propaganda campaign.

"Propaganda, a noun -- information especially of a biased or misleading nature used to promote a political cause or point of view," he said. "Mr. chairman it is very clear today not by the witnesses here, not by, in fact, Recovery.gov directly but by how this is being treated, how these jobs continue to be claimed, and how, in fact we are dealing with 3.8 million lost jobs and yet we are told to focus on the 640,000 saved jobs and how much worse it would be."

Arizona's page, for example, showed the state's 52nd, 15th and 86th congressional districts received hundreds of thousands of dollars in stimulus money, according to CNN affiliate KNXV. However, no such districts exist in Arizona, which has only eight congressional districts.

A report released Wednesday by the Franklin Center for Government & Public Integrity said it found such errors on pages for all 50 states, four territories and the District of Columbia. More than $6.4 billion in stimulus funds were shown as being spent -- and more than 28,420 jobs saved or created -- in 440 false districts, it said.

The districts didn't exist, but the money and jobs did, Obama administration officials have said. And the people who are to blame are recipients who apparently didn't know which congressional district they were in, the officials said.

"We report what the recipients submit to us. Some recipients clearly don't know what congressional district they live in, so they just throw in a number for their congressional district," Ed Pound, spokesman for the Recovery Accountability and Transparency Board, which operates Recovery.gov, said Monday.

In an appearance on Comedy Central's "The Daily Show" on Tuesday night, Vice President Joe Biden said the errors didn't indicate unaccounted-for spending but rather were the result of political ignorance.

"There was bad civics classes for those" who reported the data, Biden said. "They had to fill out a form, what district are you in, and there was no such district."

By Wednesday evening, incorrect districts appeared to have been removed from the states' summary pages. Arizona's page, for example, listed only the state's eight real districts and a category called "unassigned congressional district," which appeared to contain all the money that had been attached to the nonexistent congressional districts.

Arizona's "unassigned congressional district" row had $39,577,600, which is roughly the total that the Franklin Center said was previously linked to nonexistent districts.

Money that was reported as having been spent in a nonexistent district would be moved, in databases on the site, to the correct one in cases where the recipient reported a ZIP code, the board said Wednesday evening. Recipients who didn't submit a ZIP code will need to make corrections "during the next reporting period, which begins on January 1, 2010," the board said in a news release.

The errors raised the ire of Rep. Dave Obey, D-Wisconsin, and chairman of the House Appropriations Committee. On Monday, he said the mistakes "are outrageous and the administration owes itself, the Congress and every American a commitment to work night and day to correct the ludicrous mistakes."

"Credibility counts in government, and stupid mistakes like this undermine it. We've got too many serious problems in this country to let that happen," Obey said.
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Old 11-19-2009, 08:20 PM   #3
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Re: You can check stimulus by zip code!

And then you have to ask yourself...does it really matter?
Is the change in administrations such a change?
Perhaps in rate of speed, but the direction seems the same.
A few different bellwethers to boot around, but all in all, same old - same old.

Further research shows $5.8M in my zip code, between recipient reports and agency reports, yet still only 1 job.

Oh, and F*** this saved job ****. Is a dump not taken in the morning suddenly a dump saved in the afternoon?

But, they did loan a massage parlor $150K, and grant about $12K to a massage training school next zip over...

One can only hope they got extensive training in the happy ending...
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