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jocco22 03-25-2015 06:03 AM

3 buses I'm Looking at? advice?
Hi guys,

New to the forum I've been looking for a bus to convert and three have caught my eye for sale that are somewhat close to me. Wondering what some of you think about these?

Just so you can get a idea of what i'm looking for in a bus, i work a lot of seasonal jobs and often have to move after 4 or 6 months to a new job.So lots of driving at once and then a while of sitting around.

Now from what i've gathered avoid v8's, electronics and the cummins 555.
Cat 3116 i've heard mixed reviews
Dt360 sounds a little undersized
DT466 seems like a popular and good engine

1995 gmc cat 3116 w/ 190k miles, asking 3k
dt 360 with 190k , asking 4k
and dt466 with 110, asking 5 k

All bodies are in pretty good shape. Just pulled from school service
the cat looks appetizing because of the price but i'm willing to pay a little more or wait longer for the right one to come about.


EastCoastCB 03-25-2015 06:14 AM

I doubt you'll run into many "triple nickels".
Prices sound kinda high, but I'd rather have the DT466.
The 360's are good engines too. They're as good as or better than a cummins 5.9 anyhow.
There's my 2 cents.

HolyBus 03-25-2015 07:10 AM

I'd take either 360 or 466. Which has more headroom? Some have more than others. Are they the same length?

jocco22 03-25-2015 07:20 AM

Cat has more head room. I'm 6'2 so thats important to me. They all are full size 40 footers.

EastCoastCB 03-25-2015 07:23 AM

unless you're going to raise the roof, the cat may be the way to go then. Headroom is very crucial at your height. Even at 5'10" I feel obligated to raise my roof for my own sanity.

claydbal 03-25-2015 08:05 AM

jocko, post your location and someone here may know of some great deals for you. those prices are outrageous.

jocco22 03-25-2015 08:35 AM

I'm in upstate New York i float between Albany and Syracuse areas.

Thanks for all the help!

cowlitzcoach 03-25-2015 08:37 AM

If those prices are for rust free western buses I would say the prices are in the reasonable price range.

If those prices are for eastern buses I would say those prices are a bit on the high side.

With our height, unless you start with a transit bus that already has considerably more inside height I would say you are going to have to seriously consider raising the roof on any school bus you purchase.

Standard height for school buses has been 74" for many years with 9" windows. From pictures you can tell these buses because the window drip rail will be in a straight line from the top of the driver's window.

Standard height for Crown, Gillig, andIC buses since about 2006 and optional height for the other companies is 78". You can easily tell from pictures which buses these are because the drip rail is several inches above the top of the driver's window.

My last choice in the group of buses you indicated would be the Cat and my first choice would be the DT466. The DT360 is a great little engine with an emphasis on little. Most of the DT360's were in the 160-190 HP range. Most of the DT466's were in the 190-285 HP range.

The Cat is a good engine if it has had all of the updates and recalls. When they work correctly they are a great engine. The problem with them, especially the 3116, is the electronics package can have many bugs that require visits to the Cat dealer for debugging. Figure on $1K per visit.

We currently have four indentical Thomas RE buses that just came out of service that have the Cat 3208. Two of these buses have engines with less than 20K miles on them. All four have the 74" ceiling. 1991 THOMAS RE 3208 1T7A3G908M1777486 - - Auburn, Washington 98001

We also have this one that has quite a few miles but it does have a DT466 that is still very strong. It also has the advantage of having the MT653 (yes that is the 5-speed) with really long highway gears. It can cruise at 70 MPH without any problem. 1990 International BB 1HVBB27N1LH288586 - - Auburn, Washington 98001

And we have this one that has the 12" windows and the DT466. It is a very strong running bus. Asking price is $4,500.00. 1993 IHC BB 1HVBBPGN6PH532355 - - Auburn, Washington 98001

You didn't identify any Cummins powered buses. We have several of those as well.

We have this Blue Bird Type 'D' front engine with a Cummins 5.9L. It has quite a few miles but it is in really good shape and the engine is still running strong. 2001 BLUE BIRD TC2000 1BAAKCPA72F205078 - - Auburn, Washington 98001

And we have this Blue Bird Type 'D' RE commercial bus with pass through luggage compartments under the floor. It has relatively high miles but it has had only highway miles. It has the 8.3L Cummins engine. 1991 Bluebird All-American D Class 1BABLB7A5MF041523 - - Auburn, Washington 98001

Let me know if I can help.

Good luck and happy trails.

nat_ster 03-25-2015 09:15 AM

The last bus in that posting with the Cummins 8.3 has some nice windows.

It would cost around $5000 to buy them new.

What engine did it have?

That is close to a dream bus.


cowlitzcoach 03-25-2015 11:33 AM

The bus with the choo choo on the side has the Cummins 8.3L engine.

It is a really nice bus that was purchased originally by a school in MT to be used as a trip bus. It is geared really long legged and with the big engine it doesn't slow down for much of anything.

The asking price for that bus is just that, the asking price. The bus has been in our inventory for some time and we would entertain just about any reasonable offer for it at this time.

jocco22 03-25-2015 09:42 PM

Thank you all for the info and insight.I'll let you all know what happens.
Coach WA is a bit of a haul for me at the moment but thanks for the offers.

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