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o1marc 02-24-2018 04:42 PM

Sleeping in rv in la illegal
 
I see where they have made sleeping in your car or RV illegal in any residential area of L.A. areas within a block of churches,schools, or daycares are off limits.

Land of the Free? LA Just Criminalized Poverty by Making It Illegal To Sleep In Cars And RVs | Right Wing Videos

PNW_Steve 02-24-2018 05:08 PM

Have you noticed that, in the media, if you live in your $100k RV you are a "full timer" but living in a $10k RV you are "homeless".

Irritates me a bit:banghead:

BowserJournal 02-24-2018 11:11 PM

Dosen't really surprise me.

Robin97396 02-25-2018 12:07 AM

That makes as much sense as counting you as employed if your unemployment benefit runs out.

Miles O Roads 02-26-2018 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Robin97396 (Post 255342)
That makes as much sense as counting you as employed if your unemployment benefit runs out.

I feel you there.
Kinda worried the whole skoolie movement. Its an awesome thing but you know the first bad wreck they will paint us all as driving death traps no matter how safe we are.

kara 03-05-2019 02:35 PM

Reading more it looks like you can still park in industrial and commercial zone. I know, I know, ... but at least that.

kara 04-25-2019 11:57 AM

Here's information on where you can park: https://www.lacity.org/for-residents...hicle-dwelling
There is also an option to get a guest one-day (night) permit by mail if needed. I don't see where there is an overall limit on the one-day permits, but I see where you can only apply to 3 in one day. I'm also not sure of the price. Seems like following the maps in the link above would be a better option.

kara 04-25-2019 12:00 PM

(Deleting this until I can do more research.)

PNW_Steve 04-25-2019 12:09 PM

San Diego had a similar law on the books and recently repealed it.

Disastrogirl 04-25-2019 01:32 PM

Here in San Diego you can sleep in your car overnight but it’s illegal to park your rv on the street overnight. People still do but you can get ticketed or towed

kara 04-25-2019 02:07 PM

So these links might be helpful to people, but I personally still have some unanswered questions.

Maps to show where you can dwell in your vehicle overnight: https://www.lacity.org/for-residents...hicle-dwelling

About parking an over-sized vehicle overnight. This also defines an over-sized vehicle: https://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/lamc/municipalcode/chapterviiitraffic?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$ vid=amlegal:losangeles_ca_mc$anc=JD_80.69.4.

PNW_Steve 04-25-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kara (Post 321849)
So these links might be helpful to people, but I personally still have some unanswered questions.

Maps to show where you can dwell in your vehicle overnight: https://www.lacity.org/for-residents...hicle-dwelling

About parking an over-sized vehicle overnight. This also defines an over-sized vehicle: https://library.amlegal.com/nxt/gateway.dll/California/lamc/municipalcode/chapterviiitraffic?f=templates$fn=default.htm$3.0$ vid=amlegal:losangeles_ca_mc$anc=JD_80.69.4.

Thanks for the link.

A little snip:.

Persons may live in a vehicle:

Daytime Hours between 6:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. more than one block (500 feet) away from licensed schools, pre-schools, daycare facilities, or parks;

Nighttime Hours between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. in non-residentially zoned areas which are more than one block (500 feet) away from licensed schools, pre-schools or daycare facilities or parks

consti2tion 04-25-2019 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PNW_Steve (Post 321859)
Thanks for the link.

A little snip:.

Persons may live in a vehicle:

Daytime Hours between 6:00 a.m. and 9:00 p.m. more than one block (500 feet) away from licensed schools, pre-schools, daycare facilities, or parks;

Nighttime Hours between 9:00 p.m. and 6:00 a.m. in non-residentially zoned areas which are more than one block (500 feet) away from licensed schools, pre-schools or daycare facilities or parks

Sounds like they don't want pedophiles creeping around schools...

Also who wants to stay IN LA anyway?

Frogpondfoug 05-24-2019 08:40 AM

Time to move to Canada folks :p

Disastrogirl 05-24-2019 12:07 PM

San Diego just made it illegal again to sleep in your car unless you park in one of two overnight lots. The beach city residents in particular wanted it to be illegal again.

cadillackid 05-24-2019 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Disastrogirl (Post 327388)
San Diego just made it illegal again to sleep in your car unless you park in one of two overnight lots. The beach city residents in particular wanted it to be illegal again.




sounds more like the cops wantthe additional revenue from writing DUI tickets when a person tries to drive off their drunk instead if sleep it off in the back seat

Dog Rescuer 05-24-2019 12:46 PM

I saw a story about the issue in the LA area - and it was more about streets lined with people living full-time parked on residential streets - because rent is so expensive, more people are getting cheap RVs to call home on the streets.
Its similar to people moving into Walmart parking lots full time. They create the ordinance because some people take advantage of situations - I dont agree or disagree - something needs to be done about the rent issue in LA.
I would not want a residential street lined with RVs - occasional overnights are okay with me - but when the sidewalks become their patios - and they become junk piles... it needs to end.

More designated RV parks in cities for people to live full time would be a nice solution.

Disastrogirl 05-24-2019 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by cadillackid (Post 327391)
sounds more like the cops wantthe additional revenue from writing DUI tickets when a person tries to drive off their drunk instead if sleep it off in the back seat

There are a lot of people living in their vehicles because the rent is high here, just like LA. The beach cities are mostly wealthy and don’t want the unwashed masses wrecking their property values. There was a huge backlash after they made sleeping in vehicles legal so now it’s illegal again.

Sleddgracer 05-24-2019 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Dog Rescuer (Post 327404)
I saw a story about the issue in the LA area - and it was more about streets lined with people living full-time parked on residential streets - because rent is so expensive, more people are getting cheap RVs to call home on the streets.
Its similar to people moving into Walmart parking lots full time. They create the ordinance because some people take advantage of situations - I dont agree or disagree - something needs to be done about the rent issue in LA.
I would not want a residential street lined with RVs - occasional overnights are okay with me - but when the sidewalks become their patios - and they become junk piles... it needs to end.

More designated RV parks in cities for people to live full time would be a nice solution.

we are starting to see similar homeless problems in Canada, but I strongly feel that`s almost entirely the result of drugs and/or mental illness - cities need to be doing more - homeless squatter communities in city parks or private commercial property is not an acceptable answer to the problem, nor are shelters in residential areas - some cities I noticed are creating areas with tiny houses of a couple 100 sq ft each and that seems to be the best solution so far - add to that, ridiculously harsh sentences for drug dealers, help for addicts in facilities that are equipped to deal with addictions and enough of them that addicts don`t have to wait for years to get into one of them, and more help for the people with mental problems I think would go a long way towards solving the problem

PNW_Steve 05-24-2019 01:38 PM

A segment of the "vandwellers" that we don't here much about live that lifestyle by choice.

I have run into a number of professional people who see it as a reasonable financial decision. Two of them that I met over in Everett are engineers for Boeing. Both in their early 40's and told me that they were on track to retire at 50.


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