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TeacherJoe 12-20-2018 04:55 AM

Bought a Bus
 
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Well, we did it. Will do a fly and drive to fetch it, but probably not until April.

2005 Thomas, 23í b to b
Cat C7
Allison 2000
47k miles
No rust, Texas bus

We wanted small for maximum flexibility in national parks and such. Weíre stoked obviously and will share our build.

Joe

ermracing 12-20-2018 07:19 AM

Cool looking rig! How long will the return trip be?

TeacherJoe 12-20-2018 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by ermracing (Post 301900)
Cool looking rig! How long will the return trip be?

1600 miles.

Joe

Tango 12-20-2018 09:17 AM

Not familiar with the C7 but that bus looks great! And it appears to have MUCH better windows than your typical (leaky) Skoolie arrangement.


Best of luck on the trip home and keep the pix coming!

BlackJohn 12-20-2018 09:52 AM

Great looker Joe, now study up on that C7.
Let the fun begin, congrats!


John

alpinekid 12-20-2018 06:34 PM

@TeacherJoe , aw shucks you got the size bus I wanted. I settled for a E350 but I really wanted a real bus frame with the engine out front, but as short as possible. It is easier to park but I hate working on the engine of a van.


have fun on the build. I'm only a few weeks ahead of you. I'm still working on changing all the fluids, filters etc.

TeacherJoe 12-21-2018 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by BlackJohn (Post 301915)
Great looker Joe, now study up on that C7.
Let the fun begin, congrats!


John

Thanks, John. I understand that the C7 loves premium filters and fluids. Thereís an aftermarket inline secondary oil filter that can be installed upstream from the HEUI system and an upgraded oil cooler gasket that may be good PM. I need tires too. Otherwise this thing is awesome shape.

Joe

EastCoastCB 12-21-2018 07:47 AM

My wife's uncle is a fleet manager and has had some C7's with injector and HEUI problems, so those are probably good ideas.
If I were you I would totally get to know that engine extremely well. Sounds like you're off to a good start.
Take the journey easy and enjoy the scenery!

TeacherJoe 12-22-2018 08:55 AM

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I guess Step 1 is deciding what to do with rear heat and a/c. If I take them out, would anybody want them?

Joe

EastCoastCB 12-22-2018 09:05 AM

I need AC and wouldn't turn down a heater!

TeacherJoe 12-22-2018 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by EastCoastCB (Post 302058)
I need AC and wouldn't turn down a heater!

Iím guessing I want them out. This thing is so tiny I need all available space.

Joe

EastCoastCB 12-22-2018 09:25 AM

Mine's almost the same size but I'm not going to live in it. Mostly just haul my dog around in it and maybe camp a few weekends per year.

TeacherJoe 12-22-2018 06:12 PM

I learned the history of the bus. First it was used by the federal government at the White Sands Missile Range. Then it was bought by a nursery school in Texas. Now it’s mine. Things take a funny path.

Joe

Motobus 12-22-2018 10:04 PM

I REALLY like your bus.

ThorrsHammer 12-23-2018 07:03 PM

Very nice bus, Joe. Enjoy!

EastCoastCB 12-25-2018 08:51 AM

Edit- nevermind

TeacherJoe 01-05-2019 03:26 PM

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Iíve been playing with layouts. Our floor space is 14.5 x 7.25. Any suggestions?

Joe

Tango 01-05-2019 04:14 PM

Once again...if you can keep all your wet connections on one side of the bus (preferably the driver side) your life will be much simpler. Running water & drains across from side to side can be a real bear. And campsites are set up to service drains and fill tanks that are on the driver side. You can go against the flow but it just makes for unnecessary complication.

PNW_Steve 01-05-2019 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Tango (Post 303683)
Once again...if you can keep all your wet connections on one side of the bus (preferably the driver side) your life will be much simpler. Running water & drains across from side to side can be a real bear. And campsites are set up to service drains and fill tanks that are on the driver side. You can go against the flow but it just makes for unnecessary complication.

Definitely drivers side. I would also suggest that you place them further after rather than forward.

I have stayed at a handful of places that had the hookups at the back of the site.

First one I stayed at caused me to go out and buy 2 sewer hose extensions and a 50amp power exten$ion cord.

TeacherJoe 01-05-2019 04:38 PM

Thanks for the feedback. I’ll look at keeping wet connections to one side. However I’ll not be hooked up very often to city water or electric. Small gray tank under sink, gray tank under shower, compost toilet.

BlackJohn 01-05-2019 04:44 PM

Toilet and shower left rear for sure. Tanks below and/or sewer connection directly below.


I put hot and cold water on both sides of my aisle. Some say not to but it was in my design. I knew how to plumb it and make it work well.
Not well enough that it didn't freeze one quick, extended, cold snap. Been a lot of work to check out and repair with framing happening and closing certain areas up.
So, make all your pipe runs accessible and warm, this includes pump, tanks , hoses, etc.
Makes life much easier if stuff fails.


Nice layout in a short distance but build everything after shower and toilet to divide your space up.


John

TeacherJoe 01-05-2019 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BlackJohn (Post 303692)
Toilet and shower left rear for sure. Tanks below and/or sewer connection directly below.


I put hot and cold water on both sides of my aisle. Some say not to but it was in my design. I knew how to plumb it and make it work well.
Not well enough that it didn't freeze one quick, extended, cold snap. Been a lot of work to check out and repair with framing happening and closing certain areas up.
So, make all your pipe runs accessible and warm, this includes pump, tanks , hoses, etc.
Makes life much easier if stuff fails.


Nice layout in a short distance but build everything after shower and toilet to divide your space up.


John

That helps. Thanks. Everything will be warm except gray tank under shower. Iím thinking 12v heating pad if needed. How did you run water across the aisle, through subfloor framing?

Joe

BlackJohn 01-05-2019 05:18 PM

The point I crossed the aisle was approx 1/2 way from rear to back of driver seat, 15 feet. That worked well for me to cross there as that area was determined by everything I built from the left rear moving forward. Those being my woodstove in far rear 5-6ft. Next was where my toilet went because tthe tank is right underneath there. So had plumbing there to do. Figured my bathtub was next moving forward so yup, more lines to run.
For a kitchen sink I used a salon sink just because it was more useful and $10 bucks. That was it from the left side except the feed for the bus water supply. It just came up through the floor where it didn't interfere but it still needed to cross the aisle.

I had no choice but to go both sides as my tank and pump and hot water tank were on that side.
So in all, I had about 6 or 7 runs across the aisle of 1/2" copper.
The crossing was an elevated tunnel I guess about 5 inches, splitting the length of the bus in two. A simple frame dressed with barnboard.
That allowed me to run my rear flooring planks straight back to the door.
Fourteen footers they ended up most about 12-14" wide. Looks nautical to me.
The floor to the front is completely different to the rear but all wood.

Most of my wood was salvaged and old, cut with hand saws and water power saws. Nice effects everywhere I look in the finish and grains.



Sorry, got on a role. Forgot to mention, I had over 200 solder joints to make crossing the floor and connecting everything. Had 2 minor leaks ...so learned a lot about soldering in confined areas. With soldering you let the smoke out, unlike electrical apparatus.


John


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