COVID-19 | Effects on Skoolies - No Politics please.

[JDSquared]

You folks really can't resist, can you.

"you folks" lol.

 

[gs1949]

Mine are here from Publix. $13 per box of 100. Playtex brand. The ones we ordered on Ebay are shipped from CA guaranteed by friday.

Well, what I saw after searching both the Amazon and Home Depot web sites for nitrile gloves strongly suggests to me that the prices are going up and the availability is going down, so I recommend you stock up while you can.

 

[EastCoastCB]

Well, what I saw after searching both the Amazon and Home Depot web sites for nitrile gloves strongly suggests to me that the prices are going up and the availability is going down, so I recommend you stock up while you can.

Done. Seems the 350 will do for quite a while.

 

[EastCoastCB]

 

[Booyah45828]

China won a long time ago. We let them with the help of the billionaires that so many Americans idolize, look up to, put in power. WE helped a communistic authoritarian government build its strength by buying all the crap they make, selling them our financial instruments and real estate. WE did that.

That was done 20 years ago when Bill Clinton was president with both chambers of congress under republican control. Regardless, Clinton was the spearhead for China's entry into the WTO, and therefore them having preferential trade status with other nations.

We are China’s number one trading partner. It is not in their interest to throw the worlds economy into disarray. They have as much to lose as the rest of us.

Sure it is, short term they will suffer, but they'll come out of this better off. We live in a global economy. Their government owned industry doesn't have to be profitable for it to survive. They can go months to even years at a time producing items at a loss, flooding the market with goods, and eliminating their competitors. Their competitors, being in the west, are typically not public owned and can't sustain large, long-term losses.

This virus has put numerous businesses in a financial bind. China is now open for business, whereas most in the west are a month plus out. The world needs goods, only China is there to deliver. It truly is that simple.

I don't buy the conspiracy theory that they engineered this and launched it upon the world, but you can't overlook the position this virus has put us all in.

The Orange Baboon talks a good game of making America great “again”. If that is assumed to be economic greatness, then he doesn’t practice what he preaches since all his manufactured goods are made mostly in China.

Baboon? Yeah, okay, you've said all I need hear from you. It's been posted not to make this political, and yet here you are. The baboon can at least read, can you?

You folks really can't resist, can you.

Nope, apparently they can't. What they don't realize is that it says more about them and their intelligence calling him names then it says about him.

 

[Danjo-SKO]

That was done 20 years ago when Bill Clinton was president with both chambers of congress under republican control. Regardless, Clinton was the spearhead for China's entry into the WTO, and therefore them having preferential trade status with other nations.



Sure it is, short term they will suffer, but they'll come out of this better off. We live in a global economy. Their government owned industry doesn't have to be profitable for it to survive. They can go months to even years at a time producing items at a loss, flooding the market with goods, and eliminating their competitors. Their competitors, being in the west, are typically not public owned and can't sustain large, long-term losses.

This virus has put numerous businesses in a financial bind. China is now open for business, whereas most in the west are a month plus out. The world needs goods, only China is there to deliver. It truly is that simple.

I don't buy the conspiracy theory that they engineered this and launched it upon the world, but you can't overlook the position this virus has put us all in.


Baboon? Yeah, okay, you've said all I need hear from you. It's been posted not to make this political, and yet here you are. The baboon can at least read, can you?



Nope, apparently they can't. What they don't realize is that it says more about them and their intelligence calling him names then it says about him.

You recognized the reference!

Sorry for bringing politics into to this site. You’re right. I will refrain.

 

[Oscar1]

Maybe with time and technological advancement we'll get there. In Star Trek, the replicator is probably the most important invention in the universe. The setting for Star Trek is a post-scarcity world where supply is never a problem given energy is available, and energy is abundant.

I think the reason each side gets mad at the other is that the side that wants these things (UBI/UHC) is telling the other they must have and pay for it, while the side that doesn't is telling the other that they can't have it. If we can learn to leave each other alone and let one another live as they please I think that's the path forward.

If the proponents of UHC/UBI can make it work, for themselves, what do I care? As long as I'm not forced into it.

What I don't think we should do, is mock/belittle those that believe differently than ourselves. I think generosity is the way to bridge this seemingly unbridgeable gap in vision for the future. I used to just get angry, still do get frustrated to some extent (smh at the tone in the quoted post I made), but I see where that leads- nowhere good, that's for sure.

I do appreciate everyone's right to their own opinions but I also do not believe I have belittled anyone, my comment was that if during a conversation/debate a person wants to quote science fiction as reality I will have less desire to hear what they have to say, my position stands. If someone believes they are "entitled" to anything that I have worked for, earned, built or grown through taxation or confiscation/redistribution I have little respect for that. You said (if the proponents of UHC/UBI can make it work, for themselves, what do you care) FYI they can make it work, by having you and I pay for it.
Sorry for leading this thread off track again, will let it go.
Regards
Curtis

 

[cadillackid]

I guess the fsct I stocked up on Harbor freight nitrile gloves during a sale last summer proves to be prudent now.. although I havent yet seen the benefit of wearing gloves vs hand washing.. according to my nurse friend gloves only do good if you use a ton of them.. you pretty much need a new pair anytime you finish an activity and switch.. for instance you get groceries you trash your gloves before driving your car home.. if you are really a germaphobe you lysol spray your groceries in the bags wearing a new set of gloves.. trash them and carry the bags in.



Masks are yours and dont touch anything.. he says wearing masks other than N95 is purely for protection of others and maybe a little of yourself..



your mask diffuses and slows down the velocity of your breath as you exhale.. also most everypne spits when they talk, know it or not.. and the mask prevents your droplets from being propelled through the air.. your mask also may help yourself from touching your nose or mouth with your hands.. at least you must think about it before doing so.

-Christopher

 

[EastCoastCB]

to me the gloves are just a layer of protection when sterilizing things that come into the house or when/if I decide to go into any public buildings.
The mask is really good if going into buildings.

You don't have to trash gloves after wearing them though. Put them into a box of their own and leave them be for a week. Any corona on them has now been destroyed and you can re-use them. I've got a few hundred pairs now and can rotate them out. I'll not run out for a really long time.

 

[Booyah45828]

I wore gloves and a mask when I last went into the store.

I wore gloves because I knew I would be in contact with multiple items that were likely touched by someone prior. I also know that hand sanitizing and washing doesn't do a 100% perfect job, especially around fingernails and other missed areas.

I have a supply of R95 mask that I keep in stock at the shop for painting things. I wore one of them as well so that I could talk to others. I also have a huge problem of scratching what itches, so I've caught myself scratching my face when out and about, which is a no-no. So the mask helped make me conscious of that like christopher referenced. The mask was tossed in a cardboard box above the toolbox, I'll leave it there for a week before reusing it like they've said to.

I wonder if your typical plastic food service gloves would be okay? I don't see why not, and those can typically be had much cheaper then nitrile gloves. I always struggle to get a used set of nitrile gloves back on without tearing them.

 

[EastCoastCB]

I wore gloves and a mask when I last went into the store.

I wore gloves because I knew I would be in contact with multiple items that were likely touched by someone prior. I also know that hand sanitizing and washing doesn't do a 100% perfect job, especially around fingernails and other missed areas.

I have a supply of R95 mask that I keep in stock at the shop for painting things. I wore one of them as well so that I could talk to others. I also have a huge problem of scratching what itches, so I've caught myself scratching my face when out and about, which is a no-no. So the mask helped make me conscious of that like christopher referenced. The mask was tossed in a cardboard box above the toolbox, I'll leave it there for a week before reusing it like they've said to.

I wonder if your typical plastic food service gloves would be okay? I don't see why not, and those can typically be had much cheaper then nitrile gloves. I always struggle to get a used set of nitrile gloves back on without tearing them.

Our nitrile gloves from Roxy's work are rated for food service. No one in her office got covid and its likely due to them using the gloves and masks. Fwiw their masks weren't very good either. Loop style surgical masks. Better than nothing. If food service gloves and surgical mask got the whole staff through a confirmed covid contamination they're definitely adequate for grocery shopping.
Something>Nothing every time.

 

[gs1949]

I just put a long post about this on the cooking thread, but I want to make sure everyone on this thread gets a chance to read this article about Jeff Bezos too:

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/apr/15/amazon-jeff-bezos-gains-24bn-coronavirus-pandemic

 

[joeblack5]

Maybe he wants his workers to be sick because he wants them to add a little bit of COVID to each package in the hope that shipping will continue to be a $$$ number one.:biggrin::biggrin:.


Let those boxes sit for a week.

Johan

 

[gs1949]

Or maybe he likes money so much that he simply does not care what some people have to go through to pay him what he is asking.

I see most conspiracy theories as a great big if, but human greed is a pretty sure thing.

And by the time they get here it has been about a week, sometimes more, since anyone touched the inside of the boxes Amazon sends here.

 

[joeblack5]

Sorry, it was just a bad joke.


Johan

 

[gs1949]

Don't worry about it.

 

[cadillackid]

my roomate works for Amazon warehouse.. there have been 2 cases in his building that are known.. they didnt even test the whole building.. they simply looked at the cameras to see where each subject had been and tested only those people shown to come in contact with them... never mind the fact the boxes couldve contained the virus..



a lot of people in those buildings dont want to work.. they have jobs but dont want to work. . they clamoured for PPE and got it. now many of them are complaining about wearing the PPE and complaining about having to be fever tested when they come or go from the building.. simply put yes Bezos can do some. things better... However there are a lot of people that want to sit home do nothing and get paid, my roomate mentions often that the work eithic is non existent.. many workers complain about being broke yet take every bit of UPT (UnPaid time) they accumulate.. personally I think that if anyone gets tested in a warehouse as positive then the workers should be able to take some paid time off. however not close the building for 2 months.. and everyone should be given Covid testing once per week for 4 weeks.. but Bezos doesnt seem to think that its worth it to get them the ability to test.. I see it on both sides here.. lazy workers greedy owner... not all workers of course are lazy.. there are plenty who have good work ethic but simply want to be safe.. there are a lot of vulnerable people working there.. its not just all young fit and healthy millenials in these places.. in fact amazon has some really good health insurance for its warehouse workers so many tolerate the heavy liftning and fast rates because they need the good coverage..

 

[gs1949]

It seems to me to be very common that people today want almost everything without having to do very much to get it.

And then there are people who are ready to do a lot to get what they want, but in some cases one has to hope they don't get it.

In compliance with the ongoing effort to depoliticize this thread, I post the following link without comment, which is difficult, believe me, but it is news I think everyone should read: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news...sters-would-rather-lock-her-up-than-lock-down

 

[cadillackid]

heres the problem with michigan.. the latest thing of roping off items in stores and not allowing people to their upstate cabins is rooted in Dumb-ass


1. friends in the likes of toledo, ft wayne, and other ohio and indiana towns are reporting that now their stores are PACKED.. unsafely so.. so in effect people in the southern half of michigan are trekking out to go buy paint, plants, clothes, and whatever else has been roped off in the michigan stores.. so much for social distancing in the name of safety...



2. people want to leave the crowded corona-infested cities and go to distanced rural cabins...



it has come to be about Suffering now in a few eyes.. a few are suffering so its only "fair" if all are made to feel their pain right? Grrr..


simply make the plants, mowers, socks, and toys curbside pickup-only items.. problem solved.. 99% of the people buying those things have computers or smart phones anyway..



certain things needed cracked-down on.. the big issue here in columbus has been house parties... esp near OSU.. I thought all the students were gone but apparently air BnB parties go on.. so now police are issuing citations and not just "go home" orders like they were doing to help curb the gatherings.. private gatherings do still go on good or bad.. lots of easter family gatherings still occured this past weekend.. there were a *LOT* more cars than normal in my suburban "off-the-radar" neighborhood on sunday...

 

[banman]

heres the problem with michigan.. the latest thing of roping off items in stores and not allowing people to their upstate cabins is rooted in Dumb-ass


1. friends in the likes of toledo, ft wayne, and other ohio and indiana towns are reporting that now their stores are PACKED.. unsafely so.. so in effect people in the southern half of michigan are trekking out to go buy paint, plants, clothes, and whatever else has been roped off in the michigan stores.. so much for social distancing in the name of safety...



2. people want to leave the crowded corona-infested cities and go to distanced rural cabins...



it has come to be about Suffering now in a few eyes.. a few are suffering so its only "fair" if all are made to feel their pain right? Grrr..

Yes -- Having some areas practicing social distancing and not others is like having a swimming pool with a no peeing section...

This is why having a strong federal response would've been proper leadership in response to a crisis...

The problem with everyone going to their rural cabin means somebody will be taking the virus with them to the rural areas which have far less resources to deal with a viral outbreak...

Worst example being CapeCod -- everybody "fleeing NYC" to their house on the cape. It's way before summer season on Cape Cod -- the stores don't have enough food, not enough plumbers to turn the empty houses back on from their winter slumbers etc. all over-burdening the local year round population...