Seeking alternative suggestions for 36'-37' long BlueBird AllAmerican FlatNose FE bus

[ChurchBuz]

I have not read everything, so pardon if I repeat or miss something.

I have a 91 bluebird all American.

From the front wheels forward, Everything is lower than everything behind them.

If I approach a ramp with a 16” height, 6’ from where my front wheels touch it, I will scrape.

I built 15” service ramps, one side scrapes a little.

If I back up the ramps, there is no problem.

My bus is leaf sprung. If I want an extra inch or two, I can add air springs. Not for always, but just when I need a little extra ground clearance.

Maybe that will help.

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

(1)I have a 91 bluebird all American.

From the front wheels forward, Everything is lower than everything behind them.

(2)If I approach a ramp with a 16” height, 6’ from where my front wheels touch it, I will scrape.

I built 15” service ramps, one side scrapes a little.

If I back up the ramps, there is no problem.

My bus is leaf sprung. If I want an extra inch or two, I can add air springs. Not for always, but just when I need a little extra ground clearance.

Maybe that will help.

(1)Right on. If it's the one in your avatar, then it's a flat nose. Cool! I sorta figured these front engine flat noses are low at the front end. Thanks for the confirmation.

But this kinda steers me away from Bluebird as I don't want the min ground clearance up front and max in the back. And I don't care about ways to improve ground clearance on it.

I prefer the front and the back to be more level and am trying to avoid going with Bluebird.

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(2) I don't know what you're talking about. Do you have pics of this big or small ramp?

Sorry, I'm a bit of a visual person.

Thanks

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

Siemens, general electric, etc. would all pay a large fortune for a windmill that was 4x efficient. They'd have the market cornered, and would then be able to create 4x the power they currently do, thus making wind energy more profitable.

When the idea was proposed, I was under the impression it was a modification to a conventional wind turbine. Although skeptical, I was truly wanting to see it.

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But once again, the main players there, most of which are also active in wind turbines, have likely tried and failed this design already.

Your faith in the (corrupt?) establishment is not for me. They would quicker protect their bottom line before being open and transparent about something that could shut down their bottom line.

I realize that my design works the wind harder. That's the only way to get more energy out of it.

But I think you simply exaggerate over what you don't really know for sure. I could be wrong, but you do not talk like you understand the best way to use the design. It is not to compete with the big boys as this is an all-or-nothing device.

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It wants all of the device to be filled with wind or it becomes counterproductive. Let's say only half the turbine has wind, which means the other half is pushing air instead of being pushed by the wind. Not good.

So the point of all that is to say that it's better at fully capturing the wind when it's on a somewhat smaller scale. Oh, that's right, my device works better scaling down, and you are used to the opposite.

Thanks but I trust my eval better than yours. I am not saying you are totally wrong, just exaggerating a bit. Trusting the establishment gave us the following, and it's not ok.

 

[musigenesis]

Siemens, general electric, etc. would all pay a large fortune for a windmill that was 4x efficient. They'd have the market cornered, and would then be able to create 4x the power they currently do, thus making wind energy more profitable.

The most efficient existing wind turbines are well over 25% efficient, so something 4X as efficient would have an efficiency over 100%, which is, um, unlikely, to put it politely.

 

[cadillackid]

It's not "divided we stand and united we fall" for a good reason...

So either please point to the location on the doll where free energy hurt you or accept the fact that wind and solar and geothermal energy is the kind of energy we need to help get rid of the energy cartels because they suppress the best in alternative energy without a meter on it.

What if humanity championing alternative energy without a meter on it, is a human right that is being suppressed by the corrupt establishment, esp. the energy cartels and the central bankers who back them? That would mean it's up to you, each individual to make a stand against corruption.

continuous energy is the problem.. if I fill a tank with liquid as long as I fill up a big enough tank i dont need to be concerned with the weather.. that tank provides me energy.. I live in ohio.. progressively cloudier-rainier ohio (proven true by climate data).. here in central pohio we just had 4 days of nearly solid rain and winds of 5 MPH or less.. continuously.. thick cloud deck.. with a sun angle thats already on a good day much less than what summer brings... a wind turbine would falter to say the least.. and solar? really? not with that thick cloud deck we had at least 85% of each day... my test solar panel could charge a phone but definitely not a computer..



those conditions are not uncommon for ohio.. if It was winter (typically even cloudier and not very windy in this area.. even lower sun angle).. and I had electric heat.. id have been in the sweaters for sure... and still shivering..



do I love technology and new ways of getting power? you bet but point is much of this stuff still has lots of work to do before we can just jettison fossil fuels and ban cars and ban gas furnaces and ban gas stoves.. and ban-ban-ban.. ban == suffer.. lower quality of life.. sorry but not sorry im not going to give up my gas furnace in favor of a thicker sweater..... yep i have hybrid heat with some of the most advanced heat pumps made.. and they work fantastic.. until it gets pretty cold out then they run lots and the return is low.. ie they either run flat out or i put on a sweater (no thanks).. so I flip the switch and the gas furnace warms the house to 75 in no time at all...



I will jump 100% onto the green energy bandwagon when it can Increase my comfort level above that of fossil fuel and do it economically....

 

[Rwnielsen]

So the point of all that is to say that it's better at fully capturing the wind when it's on a somewhat smaller scale. Oh, that's right, my device works better scaling down, and you are used to the opposite.

I watched your demo and I doubt, seriously, that that model would work at all for your intended purpose. It may be suitable if air is forced through it, like in a duct or pipe, to generate enough voltage to be measured (flow meter). Passively, it is more likely to impede airflow. If you add a generator to it to harvest motion, I doubt it would move at all. Sizing it down would only make it worse

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

When I go fully off the grid and champion free energy without a meter on it, I will have a better life remembering you malcontents who say it can't be done.

What if free energy is a human right that has been suppressed? That means it's up to each and every human being to make a stand for righteousness or be left with human oppression.

I offered you energy independence and most of you run from it in fear and loathing. I could never be as conforming to the dark side and the energy cartels as that.

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I might even have a magnet motor and a water vortex machine in the works. None of you stop me in the least. Instead, I pity you and the oppression you accept as normal.

It's like you can't really hear me, you only hear false propaganda. That's ok. I will be better off not having to deal with so many malcontents. The entire world operates on unlimited invisible energy, it's called the quantum field which says that sub-atomic particles are connected with each other.

All atoms are linked through the quantum field, the ether. So if you are against free universal energy, then you are against everything that exists which operates perpetually on some unknown energy source.

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And we have not discovered all the laws of nature, but we do know that the richest and most powerful tend to be the most corrupt. So maybe stop trusting the untrustworthy.

I could be exaggerating the real benefits of my design, and to that extent, I appreciate the challenging perspectives. Maybe I'm the one who is wrong and you are all right. But I didn't spend 12-14 years designing this because I felt like it would not work.

You have not convinced me against my invention, but I do understand that it might not work as well as I previously thought it would. I am human and prone to error, but so are you. It's our creative ability that sets us apart. We can completely change our world for the better.

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But at this pace, you people who believe that we must wait for alternative energy to make their life better, are fully missing the point. It will NEVER happen at that rate. We must make the changes ourselves or it will not happen.

They get rich off of making you feel you don't have another choice, but of course, you have another choice or people would not be so passionate about living off the grid like I am.

I can so easily tell, that most of you have not seriously given life serious enough consideration because energy is at the top of all avenues of life yet most of you still seem happy to be terribly abused by the richest and most polluting, the energy cartels.

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Ok, if so, then justify the 10 million a minute to the richest and most polluting! You can't, and so I AM THE ONE LEADING THE WAY TO FREE MANKIND FROM THIS OPPRESSION.

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

Am I the only man here and you all are mice, or does anyone else clearly see that we are all abused by the status quo energy cartels and how money is made from loans so that every dollar owes more than it's worth for perpetual debt enslavement?

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

I used to think that it's united we stand and divided we fall, but if actions speak louder than words, then it's divided we stand and united we fall. You can't make this sheot up. I'm here to help, and you are here to go against me. Brilliant. LOL

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

I nearly hate to say it, but some of you sound like you are on the wrong side of history. To argue for the status quo as some of you have is sickening times infinity. Can you be any more self-conflicted than to agree with the worst in human oppression?

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

The most efficient existing wind turbines are well over 25% efficient, so something 4X as efficient would have an efficiency over 100%, which is, um, unlikely, to put it politely.

People toss a rumor around like it's fact. I said it's 4 times more energy, 4 times more power. Please don't confuse rumor as fact. Most of you are arguing against imaginary problems that don't really exist, so maybe stop it.

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

I watched your demo and I doubt, seriously, that that model would work at all for your intended purpose. It may be suitable if air is forced through it, like in a duct or pipe, to generate enough voltage to be measured (flow meter). Passively, it is more likely to impede airflow. If you add a generator to it to harvest motion, I doubt it would move at all. Sizing it down would only make it worse

Because you gave me no hard evidence or counter-reasoning against my view to change my mind, I am inclined to stay my course. But thanks for "trying". I realize this is a bit self-referential, but I operate from reason and sufficient understanding, not just personal opinion.

As much as you believe I'm wrong, I believe I'm right. I also believe that belief is not as important as the truth because we can be mistaken about what we believe but the truth is never mistaken, the truth is true and remains accurate to reality.

I am a champion of truth. I have already made significant biblical discoveries, I believe I will make alternative energy discoveries as well. At least this time none of you felt the need to personally attack me. Gee, don't I feel lucky?

 

[Booyah45828]

So build a proof of concept and prove your theory. My theory is that it doesn't work, as my background says you're underestimating the friction and drag you'll be experiencing.

And I'm not putting an ounce of effort into proving my theory. If this does nothing more then stay a concept, which it has done so for nearly a century, I'll be shown as being correct about it. I don't have to do anything regarding this but change my mind when it's proven.

So build the concept, hang it high, and prove me wrong. Prove us all wrong. Bless the world with free energy. Until then, I'm going to remain the cynical disaffected jack-donkey that I've always been.

P.S. I wouldn't stand too firmly on the you're a man and we're all mice statement. I'm sure Mike Hughes had similar beliefs when he was building his rocket to prove the earth was flat .

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

(1)So build a proof of concept and prove your theory. My theory is that it doesn't work, as my background says you're underestimating the friction and drag you'll be experiencing.

(2)And I'm not putting an ounce of effort into proving my theory. If this does nothing more then stay a concept, which it has done so for nearly a century, I'll be shown as being correct about it. I don't have to do anything regarding this but change my mind when it's proven.

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1-Duh. Forgive me but I am not rich and don't own a machine fabrication shop loaded with expensive prototyping materials, so it's on the proverbial wish list. Maybe consider supporting inventors instead of neglecting them like you just did.

2-Perfect reasoning from the negative, which proves nothing. Just as I thought. You naysayers are full of hot air, piss and vinegar. Nothing but pissed-off emotionalism.

You can't be bothered to discern the truth for yourself, you can only rely on undeniable proof after the fact. Talk about prejudice and self-refuting. I pity you for your lack of awareness and realism.

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You seem to live in a fairy tale world but it's run by the corrupt and you trust it. Terrible and self-defeating.

We live in an upside-down world of constant oppression and you act like it's fine as long as you can make money $$$ which reads as pay more taxes "and" we all get ripped off on every single financial transaction because of the scam of how money is made.

SMH at self-refuting. You probably also complained about the high gas prices. Oh, the irony of your conflicted worldview. You can't teach the unteachable.

 

[DeMac]

I'm Not Insane, It's a Crazy World Out There

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You can't be bothered to discern the truth for yourself, you can only rely on undeniable proof after the fact. Talk about prejudice and self-refuting. I pity you for your lack of awareness and realism.
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You seem to live in a fairy tale world...

SMH at self-refuting.

You can't teach the unteachable.

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(We would say the same about you)
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"If the truth can be told,
so as to be understood,
it will be believed."
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conversely
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"Truth cannot be told,
so as to be understood,
and not be believed."
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It's statistically unlikely that the masses have difficulty understanding a singular message. It is more likely, that a singlular person has difficulty explaining the truth, in a way which others will understand & believe.
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Else: There is no truth in your words.
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[FreeEnergy4All]

Now more than I ever imagined I am glad I was raised differently by Amish-raised parents. My body and my brain probably has less toxic overload and purity matters. The Amish are the original peaceful organic dissenters against the corrupt establishment.

That's something to be proud of. Most of the world respects the Amish for their outstanding lifestyle and work ethic. You don't need to respect them or me, but when you act the opposite of what the Amish stand for, I suggest you are putting yourself in harm's way.

For your own good, please try to be less average as they are the most controlled. No one thinks of the Amish as average or controlled. The world is manipulated by the corrupt establishment, and to suggest otherwise as most of you operate in that general assumption, is self-destructive at best.

 

[turf]

im not sure how this thread diverged asking for and shitting on suggestted bus bodies to free energy but ok.

no one is against free energy. not me, not booyah, not anyone on the thread. we are not the problem you rage against.

you make claims, you've been working on for years. lets see them. if this is just repeating what you said years ago.... you havent worked on them.

there are lots of skills and abilities here. if you want something, toss it out to the community.

i think i could go to a tourist shop, buy a couple of kitschy wood spinners and test your theory. have you done any model to prove your claim?

iirc davinici had an airscrew invention....i think it evolved into a propeller driven helicopter

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

I view life as a beautiful mystery to be proactively solved. Most view life as already discovered and is mostly figured out.

I will not wait to die and go to heave to find out I could have discovered new free energy blessings if I would just stop being fooled by the common beliefs that was spread by the corrupt establishment to fool us.

I find it hard to believe that no more energy bills for the rest of your life is not the biggest priority if you just set your mind to it. But no, you seem to prefer honoring the corrupt establishment because it's less complicated than making a courageous stand against global oppression.

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And that's just it. They KNOW it's a huge industrial undertaking to challenge the energy cartels and so they KNOW that most will simply not do it, they will survive and forget about thriving without monthly energy bills.

I hope this helps clarify.

Because the status quo's 10 million a minute is not for me.

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

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i think i could go to a tourist shop, buy a couple of kitschy wood spinners and test your theory. have you done any model to prove your claim?

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Digital prototyped in CAD for many years. Please see the previous response to Booyah45828 about me not owning a machine fab shop and not being super rich for why it's not physically built yet.

We inventors are why your life is better. But when it comes to the masses supporting inventors, you tend to expect the inventor to do everything, including the impossible.

We need your help, it's a national problem of serious consequences. Do you realize how many patents are court ordered into silence??? Over 5,000 ok? And I am not convinced that Dr Evil is the only one inventing them all and they are all only to destroy just our nation alone...

 

[FreeEnergy4All]

im not sure how this thread diverged asking for and shitting on suggestted bus bodies to free energy but ok.

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Sometimes it's just who we are that bothers others. My handle is the clue in on why some people take unreasonable offense to me. It's not as much about what I post, it's about who I am and what I represent.

Maybe you did not notice my handle but honestly, I think everyone else did. LOL Believe it or not, everyone is abused and so are a bit irritable. I try to explain the truth to help set them free, but so far, I get mostly resistance.

Another way this turns into a discussion around energy is because of living off the grid, a way of life around type of energy used. And I love living to make the world a better place to be. It's ok to live off the grid, and so the discussion around energy without a meter on it, is connected to this lifestyle.

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If that's ok with you.

:Thanx: