What kind of fuel are you using?

[Henry1980]

I also use diesel

 

[chev49]

I used turbo diesel in my vehicle because it has additive in it for better mileage and long life for engine. I think you Just go with whatever the car manufacturer recommends it helps in many ways.

me too. i ony fill up at the pump with "turbo diesel"...

 

[Crazy]

I used turbo diesel in my vehicle because it has additive in it for better mileage and long life for engine. I think you Just go with whatever the car manufacturer recommends it helps in many ways.

I read through some of this guy's posts. Strange stuff. Can't figure it out.

 

[bansil]

I used turbo diesel in my vehicle because it has additive in it for better mileage and long life for engine. I think you Just go with whatever the car manufacturer recommends it helps in many ways.

I read through some of this guy's posts. Strange stuff. Can't figure it out.

check out my thread ineverything else they will take over our minds next.....so very matrix....makes ya wonder???? [Que:twillite zone music]

 

[heathnlaura]

Diesel in our.....uh....well, skoolie to be. I like the idea of being able to use just about anything in a pinch. The diesel engine was made to be used on tractors and run on peanut oil so farmers could grow their own fuel basically. If you were dangerously low say to a fuel leak that you didnt notice due to broken guages or something like that, your more likely to find a place that sells tranny fluid, brake fluid or motor oil you could poor into your tank and limp somewhere to actually refuel. Of course this would be only in an emergency and you'd never want to just run your rig on anything but diesel unless you do at necessary modding bases on the alternative fuel.

I also like 'em cause I think the diesel engine sounds better than a gassers exhaust.

I hope this posts because I've written a separate post on the hens rear end several times, even with SKOOLIE in the topic but it never shows up.

Keeping my fingers crossed,

 

[Tedd-SKO]

I will be running some percentage of a waste motor oil/ regular gasoline mix with diesel. I've running wmo blends for over 5 years in my diesel truck,so I have a pretty good body of experience and the equipment needed to de-water, filter and blend wmo fuels.

 

[Crazy]

I will be running some percentage of a waste motor oil/ regular gasoline mix with diesel. I've running wmo blends for over 5 years in my diesel truck,so I have a pretty good body of experience and the equipment needed to de-water, filter and blend wmo fuels.

Share your setup.

 

[Tedd-SKO]

Share your setup.

OK, I will. But I'll do in the alternative fuel thread.

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f17/b...roleum-products-as-fuel-11106.html#post111495

 

[Crazy]

OK, I will. But I'll do in the alternative fuel thread.

http://www.skoolie.net/forums/f17/b...roleum-products-as-fuel-11106.html#post111495

Thanks. I will read through it later.

 

[Jolly Roger-SKO]

I have a friend that has been doing BMW and Mercedes on a local fish oyster bar oil for year's and I just gave him new pumps to help him seperate the only complaint he has is that the fuel pump's on the Mercedes can't handle the thicker fuel! And there vehicles run great for free except for the effort it takes at home to make your own!!!
I don't know enough about it to change my 8.2 DT boat anchor but the real question I have is if you can and do run off of this? When you are on the road Do you just show up at a resturaunt and ask if you can suck there waste oil out of there tank? Most already have a contract to do so? Unless you carry a powered pump and filtration on-board to create what you need? I think that until there are fuel station's that provide this that you can only go where 1 tank of fuel can get you and back but it is always good to mix the two if you get in a bind? Running free means you stay close to home? Carry your fuel with you? Or your fuel pump can move the waste oil (after separated from the solid's ) and your motor is willing to accept both? Expect a cough or stutter step every time your motor transition's between the different fuel's

 

[goinbroke2]

I've tried diesel once or twice in my 8.2 T but mostly furnace oil, used fry oil (canola) or auto tranny fluid and hyd oil. Basically mix anything with furnace oil at a 3 to 1 ratio. 60L of furnace and 20L of used canola, etc. I've burnt a 45gal drum of veg based hyd oil straight. No issues with power or milage. As mentioned before, diesel fuel was "invented" many years after Rudolf Diesel was found floating in the English Channel. Surface combustion engines were designed to run on local oils. Rape seed, palm, coconut, whatever the country has.

 

[milkmania]

I've tried diesel once or twice in my 8.2 T but mostly furnace oil, used fry oil (canola) or auto tranny fluid and hyd oil. Basically mix anything with furnace oil at a 3 to 1 ratio. 60L of furnace and 20L of used canola, etc. I've burnt a 45gal drum of veg based hyd oil straight. No issues with power or milage. As mentioned before, diesel fuel was "invented" many years after Rudolf Diesel was found floating in the English Channel. Surface combustion engines were designed to run on local oils. Rape seed, palm, coconut, whatever the country has.

I found your post interesting... I wiki'd Rudolf Diesel and his biographer's consider his death a suicide... Then his wife opened a bag after his death and found money.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rudolf_Diesel#

I thought his signature in vinyl would look cool

 

[2kool4skool]

Lived with his aunt and uncle Barbara and Christoph Barnickel, eventually becoming a barnacle himself.

 

[white123]

diesel all the way

 

[Mr4btTahoe]

I'll be dual fueling my shorty...

The engine in my bus is an old 7.3 IDI build by IH. They love their alternative fuels.

I currently run 2 of these engines on centrifuged and blended waste motor oil (and any other oil I can get my hands on that isn't veggie). Start-up and warm up is always on diesel fuel... shut down (and ~3-5 miles prior to) is on diesel as well. That way, the IP, filter, etc.. are all full of fresh diesel before the engine gets shut down. Makes it much easier to start back up and keeps coking to a minimum. Cold engines and waste oils do not mix.

Anyways... I've put ~10k miles on one of them running primarily W90 (90% waste motor oil/10% gasoline) with no hiccups. I use mechanical 3 port ball valves to all but eliminate tank mixing... 1/2" fuel line so the lift pump doesn't have to work as hard when the oil is cool.

On the bus... I'll have at least 120 gallon waste oil tank and the stock diesel tank. I'll also be running a flat plate heat exchanger on the oil side. The hotter the oil is before it hits the cylinders... the cleaner it burns.

WMO doesn't have the gelling issues that veggie oil does.

Ive talked to guys that have over 100k miles on waste oils. Taking your time.. getting the oil clean... getting it thinned down... only running on it when at temp... all goes into having an easy time with it. I learned the hard way a few times... Over the last few years, it's been smooth sailing though.

 

[Tedd-SKO]

Taking your time.. getting the oil clean... getting it thinned down... only running on it when at temp... all goes into having an easy time with it. I learned the hard way a few times... Over the last few years, it's been smooth sailing though.

My other RV is a bobbed M35a2. The multi-fuel engine in it is perfect for wmo, and I've run it for years with no problems. I don't have a centrifuge, I've been using heat (the Georgia sunshine) and gravity to de-water and filter socks down to 1 micron to strain out the crud. With a centi. you don't have to worry about de-water.

I have been very lucky to be able to get a lot of reg gasoline AND JP4 jet fuel for thinning.

I'll be dual fueling my shorty...
I currently run 2 of these engines on centrifuged and blended waste motor oil (and any other oil I can get my hands on that isn't veggie).

What are you using for a centrifuge? I'd really like to build one one day. I'm a little leery about using wmo in my 2000 GMC Short bus with the 6.5 Turbo Diesel because of the efi.

 

[Mr4btTahoe]

My other RV is a bobbed M35a2. The multi-fuel engine in it is perfect for wmo, and I've run it for years with no problems. I don't have a centrifuge, I've been using heat (the Georgia sunshine) and gravity to de-water and filter socks down to 1 micron to strain out the crud. With a centi. you don't have to worry about de-water.

I have been very lucky to be able to get a lot of reg gasoline AND JP4 jet fuel for thinning.



What are you using for a centrifuge? I'd really like to build one one day. I'm a little leery about using wmo in my 2000 GMC Short bus with the 6.5 Turbo Diesel because of the efi.

I use one of the oil filter style pump driven centrifuges from PA Biodiesel. Couldnt swing the motor driven single pass... this little pump driven one does the trick nicely. We loop the drum for 48 hours a batch.

 

[cadillackid]

one of the things about diesels is they will burn oil and are happy doing it.. im guessing that makes doing alternative fuels a bit easier?

after all a runaway diesel is a diesel running quite happily (for a shrt time) on its own oil...
makes a lot of smoke but it runs..
-Christopher

 

[Tedd-SKO]

one of the things about diesels is they will burn oil and are happy doing it.. im guessing that makes doing alternative fuels a bit easier?

after all a runaway diesel is a diesel running quite happily (for a shrt time) on its own oil...
makes a lot of smoke but it runs..
-Christopher

You are very close … The WMO’s btu’s of energy as well as its auto-ignition temp give it a certain eagerness to be burned. Combine the eagerness of WMO with the “happiness” :wink1: of the engine, expressed as compression ratio, and you have a formula for much jocularity going down the highways and byways of life …. As long as you get the wmo de-watered, filtered and thinned properly.
There is a certain … resistance ... to this idea on the internet so I generally try to avoid the topic.
There is an old thread at a preper forum that covers the topic, including a bibliography of research material that will back up the idea of WMO as diesel engine fuel:

Waste oils as motor fuel - Survivalist Forum

I see that the pictures are gone, and it’s a little tatty looking, but the basic information is still there. I post as “oddshot” (a lyric from an old, very old Tom Paxton hippy tune ) on that site. For the skeptics, that thread dates back to 2012. I started using WMO a couple years before that thread and the truck I use it in is still my daily driver. Long or short trips, I have had no problems using wmo as fuel. VERY happily I might add.

OBLIGITORY DISCLAIMER: I have only used this fuel in mechanical FI systems … I can’t think of a reason that it wouldn’t work in a EFI system, but have not had opportunity to try it.

 

[Tedd-SKO]

I use one of the oil filter style pump driven centrifuges from PA Biodiesel.

I have been very interested in these devices for a couple years now, but have not ever come across anybody with practical experience using them. Would you mind if I reached out to you, via pm or email with some questions?

Thanks.

T

BTW, there isn't much interest in wmo fuels when the price of diesel is low. Interest pick up with the price, the higher the price gets, the more folks look at using it.